I built the following circuit (I'm using LM324N) and am having difficulty understanding why the op amp is not turning on.

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Here are some more observations:

  • When the potentiometer is set to less than 4V, the led turns on as expected.

  • When I set the potentiometer to output around 4.2V and above the led turns off.

  • If I touch the the end of the potentiometer or the negative terminal of the op amp with my hand or a voltmeter the led turns on.

  • The output voltage of the op amp measures to be 0 when the potentiometer is set to 4.2V.

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    \$\begingroup\$ - LM324 + LT1800 \$\endgroup\$
    – jonk
    Mar 18, 2022 at 11:07
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    \$\begingroup\$ The answers address the LM324, but with respect to your simulation: CircuitLab doesn't accurately simulate the behavior of op amps with respect to the power rails. Also, this site allows you to insert a "live" CircuitLab simulation that readers can run. \$\endgroup\$
    – Theodore
    Mar 18, 2022 at 16:26

2 Answers 2


The LM324N has an input voltage range of 0 to V+-1.5 V. So the upper limit of the inputs with 5 V supply is 3.5 V.

Your 4.3 and 5 V inputs are above this limit, so the OP amp will not work as you intend.

To solve this you could do one of the following:

  • Change to an OP amp with rail-to-rail inputs
  • Use higher supply voltage for the OP amp
  • Lower the input voltages, using voltage dividers or similar

If the LM324 is powered with 5V inputs should not be connected to voltages above 3.5V (see the Input Common-Mode Voltage range):

Input Common-Mode Voltage range from LM324 datasheet


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