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I am working with a MC33186DH1 5A H-bridge IC.

It seems to simplify things quite a lot. The data sheet shows this simple schematic:

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I found a break out board that mostly follows that design:

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My concern is that this simple approach following the datasheet seems to be an outlier with every other board I can find adding four SK diodes to the output. I have no idea what they are doing but assume they make it more robust somehow.

Example 1:

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My first though at seeing four diodes was "full bridge rectifier." Perhaps it is on the input so it works regardless of battery polarity, but with almost every other board doing the same thing and dual H-bridge modules having four diodes each it just doesn't make sense.

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I am hoping there is someone smarter than me or who has seen this with some otherHh-bridge setup that can explain what they do.

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Without clearly seeing the part numbers on the diodes, I would assume they are Schottky diodes such as the SMT version of 1N5819 (1A diodes), maybe this one marked B14.

They would end up in parallel with the body diodes of the internal MOSFETs in the driver chip, so would result in the chip running cooler (body diodes drop more voltage, are slower, and are actually on the chip so the energy lost has to be dissipated as heat from the same chip doing the switching).

Connection wise, think of them from either end of the motor coil to each supply rail.

Both schemes will work, the one with the Schottky diodes is better, depending on the supply voltage vs. motor voltage and the switching frequency (and the added cost is pennies).

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    \$\begingroup\$ Thanks for the explanation, the diagram was especially helpful also. So if following this approach means less heat for the cost of 4 diodes then why not. Thank you \$\endgroup\$
    – AndrewT
    Jan 31 at 1:11
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    \$\begingroup\$ an exquisite job on the hand-drawn diagram extension, @Spehro Pefhany , not unlike the legendary Freehand Circles :) \$\endgroup\$
    – user213769
    Jan 31 at 9:16
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    \$\begingroup\$ Wow, much diagram, so wobble, many amaze. \$\endgroup\$ Jan 31 at 10:26
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    \$\begingroup\$ @RedGrittyBrick Trackballs are not ideal for drawing straight lines, kind of the reverse of the "Etch A Sketch" issue. \$\endgroup\$ Jan 31 at 10:30
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    \$\begingroup\$ Please don't worry about it. Seeing such an esteemed and valued contributor make such ultra lo-fi yet still intelligible diagrams somehow makes me happy. \$\endgroup\$ Jan 31 at 10:40
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The datasheet MC33186DH1 shows body diodes on the output MOSFETs:

Block diagram

On page 7, "freewheeling diode" voltage and speed are given: 2V at 3A, and max 5µs recovery (albeit at a paltry 4A/µs current rate; maybe this rate is typical of the device's switching speed into a short circuit?).

Even if switching is synchronous, due to the mismatched delay times between devices (dead time is not specified, and not well indicated; only Fig. 22 I think hints at it), significant power can be dissipated during that brief gap, in which case schottky diodes can reduce it, at the expense of added components, and usually some additional losses due to their capacitance.

Typical candidates would include B140 to B340, PMEG4020, etc. Most schottky types aren't very picky by the way; there are largely two types, one optimized for slightly lower VF at expense of higher leakage (which can be a problem at high operating temperature (≫100°C), where leakage rises so high it dissipates excess power and runaway failure occurs; so, avoid that situation). Even the ancient 1N5819 still has comparable characteristics today.

Connection will be in parallel with the freewheeling/body diodes. See this example from the old ST L297 stepper controller datasheet:

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And yes, they had a whole chipset put together; ah, how times have changed, all of that and more is integrated nowadays.

L6210 was in fact a monolithic schottky array, but you can use single or dual or whatever parts as you like with suitable ratings.

Note that, as long as switching is synchronous, the diode dissipation will not be very much, but at least some minimum size (ampere rating) is required, otherwise the voltage drop is too high and significant current will flow into the body diodes, incurring recovery losses again. I would keep ratings to the 1-3A, 30-60V range (voltage rating of course dependent on your supply range).

Speaking of old things, MC33186 itself is rather old. You may consider using a newer device, which won't suffer from these issues (slow switching, recovery losses [or as much], smaller footprint, etc.).

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    \$\begingroup\$ Wow lots of info , thank you, I got a bunch of MC33186 ICs for pennies to use for driving gates so they should still be ok for that simple application. Thank you again for that very clear explanation. \$\endgroup\$
    – AndrewT
    Jan 31 at 1:19
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    \$\begingroup\$ Driving...gates? \$\endgroup\$ Jan 31 at 1:20
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    \$\begingroup\$ Physical driveway gates (actuator) :) \$\endgroup\$
    – AndrewT
    Jan 31 at 1:23
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    \$\begingroup\$ Hah, very literal! \$\endgroup\$ Jan 31 at 1:51

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