It is my understanding that an unstable closed loop in a minimum-phase system occurs when the loop gain (A*B of the characteristic equation) encircles the -1 point on the Nyquist chart. In https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/application-notes/an149fa.pdf in Fig.1 and Fig.3 instability is shown, which looks like relatively small disturbances on the output. By instability do they mean an encirclement of the -1 point or just coming close to it (i.e. low gain/phase/modulus margin)?

Would an encirclement not mean that the output starts oscillating and the oscillations exponentially diverge to some physical limit such as an operational amplifier rail? And a borderline situation would be when the loop gain exactly passes through the -1 point, which would create stable oscillations of a fairly high value?

I am basically trying to find out how a loop instability can demonstrate itself in the time domain and if there are any special cases.

  • \$\begingroup\$ 'just coming close to it'. Instability in many systems is a regarded as a sign that if the parameters shifted a bit more (temperature, component tolerances, load or supply voltage), then it might encircle it and oscillate, which is to be avoided at all costs. In the particular case of the tutorial you've linked, they are designing power supplies, where instability means overshoots (bad), and slow response (commercially bad),to be avoided on both counts. \$\endgroup\$
    – Neil_UK
    Aug 15, 2023 at 9:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Neil_UK Thanks but how can you tell from the pictures? Would subharmonic oscillation for example, which I suppose crosses the -1 point, not look potentially similar on Vout? Or is it that small-signal instability would look like a clear sinewave? \$\endgroup\$
    – Hyp
    Aug 15, 2023 at 10:08

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Run a time domain analysis (=transient analysis) of any unstable circuit in a circuit analyzer program and see, how the oscillation starts. It can be DC - the output voltage drifts to the minimum or maximum, it can occur at a single frequency or it can be complex when the oscillations can happen in numerous frequencies. Non-inearity can even make the oscillation in such cases chaotic (=no repeating pattern).

Some starting impulse is needed, but in common transistor oscillator circuits starting the analysis is generally enough, because the capacitors start to get charged. Using Matlab or another simulation system with theoretical noiseless blocks needs a starting impulse, a precharged state variable or a noise injection.

To see clearly the growth of the amplitude use a sinewave oscillator and have long enough analysis duration. An example:

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You can see how the circuit searches a while the operating point and finally the oscillation escalates. The amplitude is limited by the non-linearity of the transistor. The amplitude stops to the value where the gain of the transistor is reduced so much that further amplitude growth would make the oscillation impossible. The oscillation is not pure sine because the transistor amp distorts badly.

With more advanced analysis programs (Matlab for ex.) you can draw the Nyqvist plot of the loop gain and adjust some parameter to see what's the difference a) as Nyqvist plots b) in time domain and between systems which are

  • stable
  • stable, but nearly oscillating
  • unstable, but so near the stability that the amplitude grows only slowly or stays the same, if started somehow
  • strongly unstable, the amplitude grows to the clipping limit during the first oscillation cycle.

Using a circuit analyzer is not especially good for this, because the loop gain can be affected by the loading much when the loop is closed for the time domain analysis. Low frequency opamp circuits only could be recommended. It's better to use ideal amplifier, integrator and summing blocks + an amplitude limiter. At least MicroCAP has them. Matlab is the perfect one.

  • \$\begingroup\$ OK, I see this is a bit complex with non-linearities limiting gain and thus the amplitude. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough in my question but what has been bugging me is this: how small can sustained-oscillations amplitude really be? In your example it is in the volts region, which makes sense if non-linearities come into play. But my feeling is if it is just tens of mV, it is not unwanted sustained oscillations but ringing of a circuit close to the -1 point, excited frequently with some pulse like noise. \$\endgroup\$
    – Hyp
    Aug 25, 2023 at 15:46

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