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Opamps often get used with one input at a DC voltage, usually the main ground per the standard inverting amplifier example: inverting opamp application


For low noise, a BJT input stage like OPA1611's is often chosen for the opamp: OPA1611 schematic

But, this then causes flicker noise (I am concerned mainly about low frequencies near 1 Hz) on top of the "ground reference" due to the IN+ NPN transistor, so it seems that total noise could be reduced to half (or 0.707) if the IC were designed knowing that IN+ was always at a DC voltage. Basically, I would rather see an opamp pinout with 1 input pin and 3 supplies than see an opamp pinout with 2 input pins and 2 supplies.

So, why can't I find low noise "single-ended amplifiers" instead of these "differential amplifiers"? Does there exist a single-ended BJT amplifier for low noise at low frequencies?

Am I missing something or is the noise just sacrificed to allow more usage applications?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Are you aware of chopper-stabilized or auto-zero amps? \$\endgroup\$ Commented Oct 5, 2023 at 17:20
  • \$\begingroup\$ Yes, but I don't want the chopping noise even though it is at higher frequencies. I would like everything sitting nicely at DC voltages while it awaits a transient input. \$\endgroup\$
    – bobuhito
    Commented Oct 5, 2023 at 17:21
  • \$\begingroup\$ And, even if I allowed chopping, I think the IC designers could still reduce the noise by half (or 0.707) if they knew IN+ was always grounded. \$\endgroup\$
    – bobuhito
    Commented Oct 5, 2023 at 17:24
  • \$\begingroup\$ Autozero generally do not have chopping noise, hence the distinction. || If they knew one input were always grounded, it wouldn't be a differential amplifier! You would need to be shopping for a different type of amplifier. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Oct 5, 2023 at 17:26

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In answer to your question, yes, they've sacrificed ~40% noise for wider applications and DC performance. It's impossible to get good DC performance without some kind of differential front end.

If you need to avoid the weirdness of zero-drift amplifiers with their nasty current spikes coming out of the inputs and EMI sensitivity, and are concerned about low-frequency 1/f noise you can make your own single ended preamplifier (perhaps with a bunch of JFETs in parallel) and follow that up with something like an LT1028.

You can also get the \$\sqrt{2}\$ increase in voltage noise back by purchasing two amplifiers and effectively paralleling them so the outputs add, however the current noise goes the other way.

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Low noise single-ended amplifiers often go by the name pre-amplifier in the low-frequency world. The www holds many rabbit holes worth of literature.

They are usually just used as another amplification stage in front of op-amps. Their voltage gain makes the noise of the op-amp almost meaningless.

Typical voltage noise values can be way below 1 nV/rtHz, but if you are after particularly low 1/f noise, some cherry picking might be required.

For low noise at frequencies well below 1 Hz forget about anything without modulation. The easiest way to have 1/f rejecting modulation is via zero-drift aka chopper-stabilized op-amps.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ I don't find any "bjt preamplifier" ICs on a quick Google search. In case you have an example part number (with no chopper), please add it to your answer since I still feel like ICs for precision applications always use differential inputs. \$\endgroup\$
    – bobuhito
    Commented Oct 5, 2023 at 17:58
  • \$\begingroup\$ @bobuhito I think there are no ICs because usually you use a single transistor and 1 or 2 resistors for this. This isn't going to be linear. But if you want linearity, you will need that second transistor again anyway which brings you back to op-amps. \$\endgroup\$
    – tobalt
    Commented Oct 5, 2023 at 18:05
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So, why can't I find low noise "single-ended amplifiers" instead of these "differential amplifiers"? Does there exist a single-ended BJT amplifier for low noise at low frequencies?

Look for chopper amplifiers. they specifically rectify the flicker noise to a higher frequency and then filter it out, then construct the DC signal again.

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