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I want to build an electronic project kit for my kids similar to the pictured 150 in One kit from the 70s. I want to include common variations of transistors, capacitors, diodes, switches, etc.

Right now I am considering having everything attached to a common ground by default. To prevent something bad from happening. But that would kind of limit the possibilities of what you can do with a kit like this. So I am asking myself: What could possibly go wrong if you connect any of those components wrongly. Could it start a fire with a 9v battery? Could some components break?

radioshack 150 in One 70s project kit

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    \$\begingroup\$ It depends also on the battery (I would not use a rechargeable battery). I would ask "what harm will do if I short a 9V battery". I assume the rest would be less harmful (but for the single components). Also consider the age (so size of components). \$\endgroup\$ Commented Nov 25 at 11:27
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    \$\begingroup\$ It's all too vague. Of course you can break components if they get the wrong voltage applied. Of course you could start a fire if you short a battery. Etc. But the main problem would be that batteries deliver as much current as they are able to, meaning components are likely to break if connected in the wrong manner. This would be why using batteries for experiments is a very bad idea even for professionals. Use a current limited bench supply for everything. \$\endgroup\$
    – Lundin
    Commented Nov 25 at 11:28

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Pretty much all semiconductor components can be destroyed rather easily. For BJTs or LEDs, all it takes is a bit too much current and that's done.

This kit comes from a time when transistors were expensive, and this shows in the design, for example the transistors are few and soldered to the board.

When I was a kid, I had a similar kit, but it was a later time and transistors were less expensive, so they gave you a bunch of them, and the "breadboard" had the same spring contacts as yours... but it only had the spring contacts, no components. You'd take the components and put the legs in the spring contacts, along with the wires. So you could make the breadboard look just like the schematic.

These days you can get 100 TO-92 generic BJTs like 3904 for the price of a hamburger. So, rather than try to not blow components at all, I think it would be a better idea to add a component tester to the kit. Perhaps one of the generic aliexpress 3-pin testers that identify the pins and test the transistor at the same time.

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    \$\begingroup\$ also reverse bias above 5V can damage transistors base-emitter and some LEDs. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Nov 25 at 22:02
  • \$\begingroup\$ Oh that is a good idea. Also making the components easily replaceable. \$\endgroup\$
    – Martin
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If you connect a component right or wrong, what happens depends on what kind of circuit it creates instead of the intended circuit.

For example if you leave a resistor off by a mistake from a transistor circuit, the transistor likely damages with overcurrent. The voltage does not have to be even 9V, less can damage it too.

It is unlikely you can start a fire with 9V battery, but it depends on the battery. A rechargeable battery can melt the wire insulation and bring copper wire to red hot until it burns, even a 1.2V rechargeable will do that. Rechargeables do not belong to hobby kits like this where kids make short circuits.

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    \$\begingroup\$ @Martin sure, having a fuse is safer than not having a fuse. But it won't help you in most cases: for example, some transistors might burn at 50 A, others at 5 mA. Some circuits need 40 A to work, others 1 µA. So, there's no fuse size that fits all problems, and you need to figure out what the component limits are in your specific circuitry to protect them. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Nov 25 at 12:44
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Martin Fuses are to protect e.g. wires if say a transistor damages to dead short. But the fuse will not protect transistors from damage. 9V battery also cannot push much more than 1-2A into dead short. It's also a bit unclear what you mean by grounding everything. You cannot ground any terminal of a transistor in order to use it in e.g. an amplifier circuit or ground a LED terminal or ground a resistor terminal or you can't use them as you wish. You also have a battery operated device on your desk so it's unclear what ground means to you in this case anyway. \$\endgroup\$
    – Justme
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Martin "ground everything by default" Where does this idea that it makes anything safer come from? It makes no sense. When components are grounded, one half of a closed circuit is already made. It only takes one wire then to get any component directly connected across the battery. For most components it's not anything you'd want. Ground is not a magical "safe" terminal, not at all. When batteries are used for power source, neither terminal (positive or negative) is inherently "safer" than the other. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Nov 25 at 15:48
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    \$\begingroup\$ @Martin Protective Earthing, also called grounding, is used to make some mains- and lightning-exposed systems safer to the human user. It does not protect the components in the system from getting the damaged, except in specific cases. It makes the conductive enclosure or building structure safe to touch, as it's made equipotential to the other surfaces the human stands on ("earth") or has easy access to. That's all. When you have, let's say, a double-insulated electrical appliance, it doesn't need to be grounded to be safe to touch (as long as it's in good repair). So on and so forth. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Nov 25 at 15:51
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    \$\begingroup\$ consider a small dc-friendly circuit breaker instead of a fuse if it's something kids will use. \$\endgroup\$
    – dandavis
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What harm can 9V do to common electrical components

It depends where that 9V is coming from. If it is a series of 3 rechargeable AA-size or similar lithium cells, you get a fire if there's no fuse/PTC to limit the current. A hookup wire used for connecting things in the kit will happily glow orange when supplied from such a battery. Transistors and diodes connected randomly to such a source will crack open, flash, and release magic smoke. Etc.

If the 9V is coming from a small zinc or alkaline battery, then it can damage or overstress components, but the damage should be contained and not particularly hard to get rid of by replacing the components.

I am considering having everything attached to a common ground by default

That will make the thing useless. Look at just about any schematic of a circuit for such kits, and tell us how many components are not connected directly to ground.

The kit you show has nothing connected to the battery by default at all, in any way, and that's how it should be.

To prevent something bad from happening.

Grounding things only prevents some very specific bad things from happening. None of that applies to this kit, more-or-less.

On the contrary, that will make bad things happen by default - especially shorts between +9V and 0V. With alkaline batteries, the battery will just be discharged quickly. With rechargeables, things may actually catch on fire if you're unlucky. Do not use rechargeable batteries in those kits. Zinc or alkaline are fine.

What could possibly go wrong if you connect any of those components wrongly.

Nothing wrong at all - other than the circuit not working - to a component getting very hot and releasing the magic smoke, then going open-circuit or short-circuit or something between the two.

Resistors typically break open as they overheat and the conductive material vaporizes and/or catches fire for a short moment.

Transistors tend to blow their plastic package open when overstressed with vigor, but can also go short or have degraded performance from non-terminal overstress.

The meter should be internally protected against overvoltage and overcurrent in a kit like this. When adding your own meter, you'll have to design the protection mechanism. It can be very rudimentary, say antiparallel diodes connected to the movement if it is an ammeter. If it's a voltmeter, just make sure it can take 9V, and it should be fine. For higher-sensitivity voltmeters, a voltage clamp circuit will be needed, and perhaps a series PTC thermistor to reduce current flow when overloaded.

Could it start a fire with a 9v battery?

Yes, of course, but not very likely by accident. It would take some design work to get something that could get hot enough to start a fire without destroying itself first in this kit.

Could some components break?

Always. That's part of learning. I'm not sure where the idea that you don't break any components while learning, or that breaking them is somehow very bad, came from. Real life doesn't work that way. If you don't occasionally break a component, you're not trying very hard :)

Most components in this kit cost on the order of 1USD. Breaking them while learning is very cheap compared to the value of education one gets from doing it.

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