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Which one has a higher output torque PMSM or BLDC motors? Does having a higher rpm mean having high torque? [closed]

Hey I am researching PMSM and BLDC motors for a project where I make a brushless motor and I had a few questions: Which one has a higher output torque PMSM or BLDC motors? and Does being fast mean ...
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PMSM current control test

First tests for the field oriented control (FOC) of a pmsm may be conducted only on an inductance or a stator, i.e. not at the rotating machine, e.g. when the machine has more or less high power I ...
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Differences between the drive algorithms for BLDC, PMSM and IPMSM

In the manual for a Scott Drive motor controller, they have a parameter you can set, called Motor Type. Its description reads The motor type determines the method used to calculate the reference Id, ...
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What are the price ranges for these different classes of PMSM? [closed]

I need to know how much these different Permanent magnet synchronous motors go for in todays market. By Voltage Range ...
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Torque Ripple for PMSM with sinusoidal flux for 1-SPP and 2-SPP machine

Conditions: Machine 1: 3-phase 1SPP (6-slots) Machine 2: 3-phase-2-spp(12-slots) Rotor flux: Sinusoidal shape Questions: For any given pole-arc of the magnet of the rotor, which machine has low ...
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Rotor Zero Degree

I have a 3 phase ac servo motor. I wrote a foc algorithm suitable for this motor (I think!), but I need to determine the zero rotation angle to get the starting commutation of the rotor. I asked this ...
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DC current limiting in FOC for PMSM

I have implemented field oriented control for pmsm motor . FOC algorithm takes care of phase current limiting. Can anyone guide me how can we do battery current limiting in foc ?
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DC Motor Efficiency at a given operating point

I'm trying to select a motor for a design application that cares mostly about efficiency. Given a required torque and RPM output from the motor, I feel like it should be possible to calculate the ...
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BLDC and Stepper motor torque ration meaning

Ok so after searching on the internet for a pretty long time there are a lot of undefined or roundabout articles about torque for both motors. Hybrid bipolar stepper motor torque. This one is a little ...
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How does electric vehicle motors control, torque and speeds beyond base speed?

I'm currently trying to design a electric vehicle motor controller for a Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motor and simulate it using MATLAB. I have considered using the Field Oriented Control (FOC) ...
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How to align rotor with stator d axis for pmsm motor for pmsm foc?

I am trying to develop an algorithm for field-oriented control of pmsm motor with hall sensors as position feedback. I am measuring the period of hall signals and calculating speed from it. ...
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Torque production in PMSM

First and foremost I have a question regarding the MMF distribution in a Motor produced by a single coil. I found a picture here: Why does the MMF not start at 0 at 0°? When I apply the $$NI=\int{H \...
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Do BLDC motors have saliency similar to IPMSMs?

I am experimenting with an outrunner BLDC motor, which is a Gaui GUEC GM410. It is a 12N14P motor and it has sinusoidal bEMF. If my assumption is corrent, it can be considered to be a SMPMSM with no ...
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PMSM motor with large time constant

I found out, that PMSM motor with large electrical time constant (Tau = L/R) are more difficult to control with FOC. What is the reason? From my experience in control system theory, a system with slow ...
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PMSM failure modes? Winding apparently not shorted

(This may look like a repair question, but I'm actually interested in how the simplest kind of motor failed) This is the stator of a permanent-magnet single-phase motor from a washing machine drain ...
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c2000 microcontroller sensorless speed control implementaion

I want to know some detail about TMS320F28335 TI microcontroller for sensored and sensorless speed control of SPMSM. I have implemented the MATLAB simulation and the model is working well but for ...
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speed control of Permanent magnet synchronous machine using digital signal processor

From a literature I found the entire speed control algorithm include SVPWM is implemented by a DSP TMS320F2808 with a clock frequency of 100 MHz.The speed loop and both d and q current loop sampling ...
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Formula for calculating the MMF and its harmonics of n-Phase PMSM with integral slot winding (slot per pole per phase =1 & 2)?

Data\Prerequisites: Integral slot winding full pitch winding Slot per pole per phase = 1 and 2 (two different possibilities) Number of phases : n = 3,4,5,6,7 Assume number of turns = N and current to ...
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Developing Sensorless FOC PMSM code from Sensored FOC ACIM

Recently I worked on a project to develop field-oriented control (FOC) for AC Induction Motor (ACIM) with Encoders giving the position feedback. Using the same algorithm, my next project is to ...
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Determining the voltage of 5 phase PMSM motor

As a part of the project, I have to design a 5-Phase PMSM motor, for which want to know the following: How to determine the voltage ? What should be the ideal voltage to use this motor in an electric ...
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Confusion with winding voltages for a fixed positioned brushless motor

Below is examples of various commutation forms different driving ways of a brushless motor: Such a motor can be BLDC or PMSM. My question is: imagine we set the motor position to a fixed stationary ...
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PMSM V/F control

In BLDC motor 6 step control we know that for a particular hall sensor state (say 110) only 2 windings are excited (say Y & B). So, as long as Hall sensor state is 110, Y & B windings will be ...
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BLDC motor drive: Requires an external push to start rotating

I am trying to drive a 23-pole pair(i.e. 46 poles) BLDC motor using an LV8139 pre-drive, the output of which is fed to drive the 3 half bridge MOSFETs. I managed to connect the correct phase sequence(...
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PMSM Rotor Design. Are these terms equivalent?

I'm working on a project with a PMSM. As I go through the literature I come across the following terms and wanted to make sure that I am getting right which ones are synonyms. Surface-mounted PM = ...
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PMSM torque behavior and interpretation

As I know, with field oriented control of a PMSM it is possible to control a constant torque via the dq-axis currents. I try to understand the behavior of a permanent Magnet synchronous machine when ...
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Where do the oscillations in a GaN half-bridge design exactly come from?

I'm working on a inverter pcb for a PMSM with GaN switches and I'm wondering: where exactly do the oscillations come from, when the high-side GaN goes high and the low-side GaN goes low. Why don't ...
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Harmonics modelling in electrical machines

I am currently working with a permanent magnet synchronous machine and I am trying to model the harmonics caused by magnetic saturation, dead time, and non linearities of the frequency inverter. It ...
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Can AC synchronous motors be controlled with VESC?

I want to drive something like these ac synchronous motors: Small Mige: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Small-Mige-130-series-1KW-best_60394196285.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.13....
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What is the influence of the DC voltage of an inverter on the control of a PMSM?

I am developing a FOC controller for a PMSM (in blue). The outer loop (speed control, in orange) is made with a PI. The inner loop (current control, in green) as well. Now I'm including the ...
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Controlling the reactive current of an PMSM in an open loop setting

for my master thesis I'm investigating the EMI of a 3-phase inverter, wich drives a PMSM. The inverter's structure is the common 3-Phase DC/AC Voltage Source Inverter and it uses EPC2020 GaN ...
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PMSM motor current calculated by D axis and Q axis current

Now, I know d and q axis current can be calculated by phase current ia, ib, ic in a PMSM, via clarke transform and park transform. ialpha = sqrt(2/3) * (ia - ib / 2 - ic / 2) ibeta = sqrt(1/2) * (ib ...
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About how to extract back EMF from SMO(sliding mode observer), maybe I need a doctor for this question

The equations of PMSM on alpha-beta frame(2 fixed coordinate systems) are like this, ...
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Magnetic Flux loss in PM Motors

The PM motors specially BLDC or PMSM they get their armature energy from the permanent magnets on their rotors unlike the Induction Motors in which the armature gets its energy from the Stator ...
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BLDC (Brushless DC Motor) vs PMSM (Permanent Magnet Synchornous Motor)

The differences between BLDC and PMSM are very small and for what I have seen while reading about it, is not clear to many of us. Most of the articles I have read say that the main difference is that ...
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Do electric motors have the same efficiency when operating as generators?

Its in the title. I'm just curious and it turns out that either this is such a stupid question that no one has bothered to answer it, or i'm just not good at googling today. I guess I'm thinking ...
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How to empirically tune DQ current PI controllers in BLDC/PMSM motor for vector control?

I need to experimentally set the \$k_p\$ and \$k_i\$ parameters of PI controllers for the DQ-axes of a vector controlled BLDC motor. I have been looking for papers and application notes proposing ...
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OpAmp for FOC current sensing on a BLDC/PMSM

How critical is this pull-up resistor to Vdd for current sensing in a Field Oriented Control of a BLDC or PMSM? Right now, I don't have that pull up...I'm running the shunt resistor voltage straight ...
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What does changing the throttle to a BLDC ESC actually do?

Background: I understand how the standard 50 Hz PWM protocol for hobby electronics works: varying the on-time from about 0.5 ms to 2.5 ms will throttle an actuator from roughly 0% to 100% thanks to ...
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Relationship between offset in electrical angle and BLDC motor performance

I am controlling a BLDC motor using Field Oriented Control (FOC). I use a 14-bit absolute encoder to read the rotor's position \$\theta_{m} \$, and use it to reconstruct the electrical angle \$\theta_{...
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Non equal phase currents at nominal speed vector control Permanent magnet synchronous motor

I working on my implementation of vector control for PMSM. I'm having close loops over speed, current in d axis(flux loop), current in q axis(torque loop). I'm using MATLAB/Simulink for vector control ...
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Estimate current consumption of a PMSM

I have here a 3 phase inverter and a PMSM, where I can measure the phase current of two phases and the input voltage of the DC supply. The PMSM is connected in star connection. I would like to ...
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Using Simulink to simulate FOC of a PMSM motor

I am building a simulation of Field Oriented Control of a PMSM in Simulink. The goal is to approximate the behaviour of a uController sampling the position of the rotor and the stator currents at ...
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ST's FOC for BLDC start up errors

I am using ST's FOC library 4.3. I am able to run my NovoMotec motor as I want, with the Observer + PLL configuration. Often (1 out of 5) during the start -up period, my motor stops, and I get a start-...
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Control of a Permanent Magnet Synchronous Machine (PMSM)

I'm trying to control the speed of a PMSM in the simulation software PSIM. Now, I have learned that in a Synchronous Machine the steady-state speed is directly proportional to the frequency of the ...
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How to determine a Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motor (PMSM) Nameplate?

I have already built a three-phase Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motor(PMSM) and wanted to use a VFD in sensorless vector control mode to run it. Now I want to figure out the characteristics of my ...
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Non-regenerative braking on a PMSM/BLDC motor

Problem I have been working on drives for a while, but one problem that I never seem to be able to really get around is the regeneration that occurs when our PID loop commands a lower speed/torque ...
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Confusion about the rated voltage of a Permanent magnet synchronous motor

Confusion about the rated voltage of a Permanent magnet synchronous motor. I’m currently trying to do a motor control experiment and I’m really confused by a term called “rated voltage” from the ...
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FOC for a BLDC motor with Hall sensors but no encoder

I am trying to implement a FOC algorithm in an MCU to use with a BLDC motor. My problem is that I only have the Hall sensor feedback, no precise encoder can be used. With this 4 pole pairs motor, ...
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Linearized state space model of PM synchronous motor

I intend to implement field oriented control of PM synchronous and Induction motor in Simulink. I started with the synchronous motor and was trying to find its linearized state space model. I read ...
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BLDC motor/PMSM parameters at reduced operating voltage

I was thinking about nameplate parameters of BLDC motors/PMSM and wondered what happens to those values if I operate the motor at a lower voltage as rated. Are my following conclusions correct? If ...