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We have been designing a very high precision control circuit for quite a while. And we are thinking to make it much easier to use, which is to get rid of the Lab DC Sources and use AC to DC switching power (get power from 220V/110V directly).

Our circuit runs at +-12V currently with around 200mA current. It consists of a photodiode, which 1pA precision could be measured, many OpAmps, one 16-bit ADC and one 18 bit DAC. As from the description, it can be observed that our circuit is running at very high precision.

One lab DC source costs thousands of dollars and the DC ripples are basically zero. At most on the level of 0.001mV peak to peak. If a cheap AC to DC source is to be used, however, I am afraid that the DC can be far less clean. For example this one (which has 50mV pp ripples).

I need suggestions from you:

  1. Is this kind of AC-DC switching power a good choice (http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf)? Or maybe the ones used in laptops are better?

  2. How to reject the noises in power supply in the most thorough way? Any material will be appreciated.

  3. Is it possible to make clean DC source from 220V AC, which has similar performance as the lab DC sources?

  4. If large caps and inductance are used to filter the ripples, could they cause stability issues for the AC-DC converters?

  5. How would the DC noises influence the behavior of OpAmp, ADC, DAC? For ADC and DAC, I think the voltage references will not be influenced.

We have been designing a very high precision control circuit for quite a while. And we are thinking to make it much easier to use, which is to get rid of the Lab DC Sources and use AC to DC switching power (get power from 220V/110V directly).

Our circuit runs at +-12V currently. It consists of a photodiode, which 1pA precision could be measured, many OpAmps, one 16-bit ADC and one 18 bit DAC. As from the description, it can be observed that our circuit is running at very high precision.

One lab DC source costs thousands of dollars and the DC ripples are basically zero. At most on the level of 0.001mV peak to peak. If a cheap AC to DC source is to be used, however, I am afraid that the DC can be far less clean. For example this one (which has 50mV pp ripples).

I need suggestions from you:

  1. Is this kind of AC-DC switching power a good choice (http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf)? Or maybe the ones used in laptops are better?

  2. How to reject the noises in power supply in the most thorough way? Any material will be appreciated.

  3. Is it possible to make clean DC source from 220V AC, which has similar performance as the lab DC sources?

  4. If large caps and inductance are used to filter the ripples, could they cause stability issues for the AC-DC converters?

  5. How would the DC noises influence the behavior of OpAmp, ADC, DAC? For ADC and DAC, I think the voltage references will not be influenced.

We have been designing a very high precision control circuit for quite a while. And we are thinking to make it much easier to use, which is to get rid of the Lab DC Sources and use AC to DC switching power (get power from 220V/110V directly).

Our circuit runs at +-12V currently with around 200mA current. It consists of a photodiode, which 1pA precision could be measured, many OpAmps, one 16-bit ADC and one 18 bit DAC. As from the description, it can be observed that our circuit is running at very high precision.

One lab DC source costs thousands of dollars and the DC ripples are basically zero. At most on the level of 0.001mV peak to peak. If a cheap AC to DC source is to be used, however, I am afraid that the DC can be far less clean. For example this one (which has 50mV pp ripples).

I need suggestions from you:

  1. Is this kind of AC-DC switching power a good choice (http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf)? Or maybe the ones used in laptops are better?

  2. How to reject the noises in power supply in the most thorough way? Any material will be appreciated.

  3. Is it possible to make clean DC source from 220V AC, which has similar performance as the lab DC sources?

  4. If large caps and inductance are used to filter the ripples, could they cause stability issues for the AC-DC converters?

  5. How would the DC noises influence the behavior of OpAmp, ADC, DAC? For ADC and DAC, I think the voltage references will not be influenced.

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CLEAN Clean DC Powerpower design for VERY-HIGHvery high precision circuit(Suggestions needed!)

We have been designing a very high precision control circuit for quite a while. And we are thinking to make it much easier to use, which is to get rid of the Lab DC Sources and use AC to DC switching power  (get power from 220V/110V directly).

Our circuit runs at +-12V currently. It consists of a photodiode, which 1pA precision could be measured, many OpAmps, one 16-bit ADC and one 18 bit DAC. As from the description, it can be observed that our circuit is running at very high precision.

One lab DC source costs thousands of dollars and the DC ripples are basically zero. At most on the level of 0.001mV peak to peak. If a cheap acAC to dcDC source is to be used, however,I I am afraid that the DC can be far less clean. For example this one: http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdfthis one  (which has 50mV pp ripples).

I need suggestions from you:

  1. Is this kind of acAC-DC switching power a good choice  (http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf)? Or maybe the ones used in laptops are better?

  2. How to reject the noises in power supply in the most thorough way? Any material will be appreciated.

  3. Is it possible to make clean DC source from 220V acAC, which has similar performance as the lab DC sources?

  4. If large caps and inductance are used to filter the ripples, could they cause stability issues for the acAC-dcDC converters?

  5. How would the DC noises influence the behavior of OpAmp, ADC, DAC? For ADC and DAC, I think the voltage references will not be influenced.

CLEAN DC Power design for VERY-HIGH precision circuit(Suggestions needed!)

We have been designing a very high precision control circuit for quite a while. And we are thinking to make it much easier to use, which is to get rid of the Lab DC Sources and use AC to DC switching power(get power from 220V/110V directly).

Our circuit runs at +-12V currently. It consists of a photodiode, which 1pA precision could be measured, many OpAmps, one 16-bit ADC and one 18 bit DAC. As from the description, it can be observed that our circuit is running at very high precision.

One lab DC source costs thousands of dollars and the DC ripples are basically zero. At most on the level of 0.001mV peak to peak. If a cheap ac to dc source is to be used, however,I am afraid that the DC can be far less clean. For example this one: http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf  (which has 50mV pp ripples)

I need suggestions from you:

  1. Is this kind of ac-DC switching power a good choice(http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf)? Or maybe the ones used in laptops are better?

  2. How to reject the noises in power supply in the most thorough way? Any material will be appreciated.

  3. Is it possible to make clean DC source from 220V ac, which has similar performance as the lab DC sources?

  4. If large caps and inductance are used to filter the ripples, could they cause stability issues for the ac-dc converters?

  5. How would the DC noises influence the behavior of OpAmp, ADC, DAC? For ADC and DAC, I think the voltage references will not be influenced.

Clean DC power design for very high precision circuit

We have been designing a very high precision control circuit for quite a while. And we are thinking to make it much easier to use, which is to get rid of the Lab DC Sources and use AC to DC switching power  (get power from 220V/110V directly).

Our circuit runs at +-12V currently. It consists of a photodiode, which 1pA precision could be measured, many OpAmps, one 16-bit ADC and one 18 bit DAC. As from the description, it can be observed that our circuit is running at very high precision.

One lab DC source costs thousands of dollars and the DC ripples are basically zero. At most on the level of 0.001mV peak to peak. If a cheap AC to DC source is to be used, however, I am afraid that the DC can be far less clean. For example this one (which has 50mV pp ripples).

I need suggestions from you:

  1. Is this kind of AC-DC switching power a good choice  (http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf)? Or maybe the ones used in laptops are better?

  2. How to reject the noises in power supply in the most thorough way? Any material will be appreciated.

  3. Is it possible to make clean DC source from 220V AC, which has similar performance as the lab DC sources?

  4. If large caps and inductance are used to filter the ripples, could they cause stability issues for the AC-DC converters?

  5. How would the DC noises influence the behavior of OpAmp, ADC, DAC? For ADC and DAC, I think the voltage references will not be influenced.

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We have been designing a very high precision control circuit for quite a while. And we are thinking to make it much easier to use, which is to get rid of the Lab DC Sources and use AC to DC switching power(get power from 220V/110V directly).

Our circuit runs at +-12V currently. It consists of a photodiode, which 1pA precision could be measured, many OpAmps, one 16-bit ADC and one 18 bit DAC. As from the description, it can be observed that our circuit is running at very high precision.

One lab DC source costs thousands of dollars and the DC ripples are basically zero. At most on the level of 0.001mV peak to peak. If a cheap ac to dc source is to be used, however,I am afraid that the DC can be far less clean. For example this one: http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf (which has 50mV pp ripples)

I need suggestions from you:

1.Is this kind of ac-DC switching power a good choice(http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf)? Or maybe the ones used in laptops are better?

2.How to reject the noises in power supply in the most thorough way? Any material will be appreciated.

3.Is it possible to make clean DC source from 220V ac, which has similar performance as the lab DC sources?

4.If large caps and inductance are used to filter the ripples, could they cause stability issues for the ac-dc converters?

5.How would the DC noises influence the behavior of OpAmp, ADC, DAC? For ADC and DAC, I think the voltage references will not be influenced.

I hope this message is not too long. Thanks for your patience and any suggestion will be very appreciated.

Best regards

  1. Is this kind of ac-DC switching power a good choice(http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf)? Or maybe the ones used in laptops are better?

  2. How to reject the noises in power supply in the most thorough way? Any material will be appreciated.

  3. Is it possible to make clean DC source from 220V ac, which has similar performance as the lab DC sources?

  4. If large caps and inductance are used to filter the ripples, could they cause stability issues for the ac-dc converters?

  5. How would the DC noises influence the behavior of OpAmp, ADC, DAC? For ADC and DAC, I think the voltage references will not be influenced.

We have been designing a very high precision control circuit for quite a while. And we are thinking to make it much easier to use, which is to get rid of the Lab DC Sources and use AC to DC switching power(get power from 220V/110V directly).

Our circuit runs at +-12V currently. It consists of a photodiode, which 1pA precision could be measured, many OpAmps, one 16-bit ADC and one 18 bit DAC. As from the description, it can be observed that our circuit is running at very high precision.

One lab DC source costs thousands of dollars and the DC ripples are basically zero. At most on the level of 0.001mV peak to peak. If a cheap ac to dc source is to be used, however,I am afraid that the DC can be far less clean. For example this one: http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf (which has 50mV pp ripples)

I need suggestions from you:

1.Is this kind of ac-DC switching power a good choice(http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf)? Or maybe the ones used in laptops are better?

2.How to reject the noises in power supply in the most thorough way? Any material will be appreciated.

3.Is it possible to make clean DC source from 220V ac, which has similar performance as the lab DC sources?

4.If large caps and inductance are used to filter the ripples, could they cause stability issues for the ac-dc converters?

5.How would the DC noises influence the behavior of OpAmp, ADC, DAC? For ADC and DAC, I think the voltage references will not be influenced.

I hope this message is not too long. Thanks for your patience and any suggestion will be very appreciated.

Best regards

We have been designing a very high precision control circuit for quite a while. And we are thinking to make it much easier to use, which is to get rid of the Lab DC Sources and use AC to DC switching power(get power from 220V/110V directly).

Our circuit runs at +-12V currently. It consists of a photodiode, which 1pA precision could be measured, many OpAmps, one 16-bit ADC and one 18 bit DAC. As from the description, it can be observed that our circuit is running at very high precision.

One lab DC source costs thousands of dollars and the DC ripples are basically zero. At most on the level of 0.001mV peak to peak. If a cheap ac to dc source is to be used, however,I am afraid that the DC can be far less clean. For example this one: http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf (which has 50mV pp ripples)

I need suggestions from you:

  1. Is this kind of ac-DC switching power a good choice(http://www.switchingpowersupply.cc/pdf/D-30W.pdf)? Or maybe the ones used in laptops are better?

  2. How to reject the noises in power supply in the most thorough way? Any material will be appreciated.

  3. Is it possible to make clean DC source from 220V ac, which has similar performance as the lab DC sources?

  4. If large caps and inductance are used to filter the ripples, could they cause stability issues for the ac-dc converters?

  5. How would the DC noises influence the behavior of OpAmp, ADC, DAC? For ADC and DAC, I think the voltage references will not be influenced.

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