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A capacitor can deliver a large current for a short time. You don't say how much voltage you need to create the 50 A, but let's say 1 V. That means your wire is 20 mΩ, which is doable. Let's say 2 V to account for other drops in the system.

Let's further say that you want the current not to deviate more than 20% at any one time from the 50 A average. This will allow the current to start at 60 A and drop to 40 A during your 20 ms test time. That would mean 2.4 V down to 1.6 V, for a drop of 800 mV. From that, just do the math:

(50 A)(20 ms) / (20 V800 mV) = 50 mF1.25 F

That's only five 10 mFone whopping big capacitor, or more likely, quite a bank of capacitors in parallel, for example. Make surealthough they only need to go up to 2 V.

This shows that more turns of thinner wire makes the problem easier since you can use a higher voltage. A car battery can produce 50 A for well more than 20 ms. You say you only have room for 4 turns of wire, but with thinner wire you can fit more turns. At only 20 ms duration, you don't have to worry about the short term currentwire vaporizing. "Super caps" generally can't do that

Try maybe some #22 magnet wire to see how many turns you can pack in there. A few decent size electrolytic caps should do it That will also have more resistance, but require less current. Note Both those effects will help in getting a voltage source that can power it for the bursts you don't need high voltage.

A capacitor can deliver a large current for a short time. You don't say how much voltage you need to create the 50 A, but let's say 1 V. That means your wire is 20 mΩ, which is doable. Let's say 2 V to account for other drops in the system.

Let's further say that you want the current not to deviate more than 20% at any one time from the 50 A average. This will allow the current to start at 60 A and drop to 40 A during your 20 ms test time. From that, just do the math:

(50 A)(20 ms) / (20 V) = 50 mF

That's only five 10 mF capacitors in parallel, for example. Make sure they can produce the short term current. "Super caps" generally can't do that. A few decent size electrolytic caps should do it. Note that you don't need high voltage.

A capacitor can deliver a large current for a short time. You don't say how much voltage you need to create the 50 A, but let's say 1 V. That means your wire is 20 mΩ, which is doable. Let's say 2 V to account for other drops in the system.

Let's further say that you want the current not to deviate more than 20% at any one time from the 50 A average. This will allow the current to start at 60 A and drop to 40 A during your 20 ms test time. That would mean 2.4 V down to 1.6 V, for a drop of 800 mV. From that, just do the math:

(50 A)(20 ms) / (800 mV) = 1.25 F

That's one whopping big capacitor, or more likely, quite a bank of capacitors in parallel, although they only need to go up to 2 V.

This shows that more turns of thinner wire makes the problem easier since you can use a higher voltage. A car battery can produce 50 A for well more than 20 ms. You say you only have room for 4 turns of wire, but with thinner wire you can fit more turns. At only 20 ms duration, you don't have to worry about the wire vaporizing.

Try maybe some #22 magnet wire to see how many turns you can pack in there. That will also have more resistance, but require less current. Both those effects will help in getting a voltage source that can power it for the bursts you need.

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Olin Lathrop
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A capacitor can deliver a large current for a short time. You don't say how much voltage you need to create the 50 A, but let's say 1 V. That means your wire is 20 mΩ, which is doable. Let's say 2 V to account for other drops in the system.

Let's further say that you want the current not to deviate more than 20% at any one time from the 50 A average. This will allow the current to start at 60 A and drop to 40 A during your 20 ms test time. From that, just do the math:

(50 A)(20 ms) / (20 V) = 50 mF

That's only five 10 mF capacitors in parallel, for example. Make sure they can produce the short term current. "Super caps" generally can't do that. A few decent size electrolytic caps should do it. Note that you don't need high voltage.