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I need occasionally drive watergate with gear box (e.g. http://www.servomech.com/main/screw-jacks.htm). Because location is far away from 220V I suppose powering from SLA 12V battery charged from solar panel. Battery capacity 7-20Ah. Required motor power is 50-100W (torque I think >0.2Nm). Because of outdoor usage I need IP66 or so. Price is also essential.

I did not find any 12V DC motors and seems that 3 phase AC motor (e.g. SIEMENS 1LA7063-6AB, 0.09kW,870 rev/min) produced in large quantities is the only option.

I can use power inverter 12V-DC/220V-AC and 3 phase frequency changer (e.g. Sinamics G110) to power motor even with trapezoidal profile. Expected efficiency 85%*95%. It could be assembled from stock products and it should work. I don't think it's worth to do it as home-made application.

I wonder if I can do it much simpler when I make simple inverter (IRS2153+current sensing IR2127+FETs+toroid transformer 2x12V/220V) and connect to 3 phase motor using Steinmetz method. Output of inverter is rectangular 220V voltage with adjustable frequency (easy to implement IRS2153 has option to force switching frequency from MCU). enter image description here

The questions are:

  1. Steinmetz decrease motor power to 70% and starting torque to 50%. But I believe efficiency remains unchanged, i.e. in other words I can use stronger motor without power loss compared to regular 3-phase triangle connection. Is it true ?

  2. Is it possible to regulate motor revolutions via changing of inverter output freqeuncy (i.e. apply trapezoidal profile) ? I'm uncertain how Steinmetz capacitor value (70uF/1kW) is related to voltage frequency (50Hz).

  3. how motor copes with rectangular AC waveform? I think it may affect insulation bacause of voltage peaks.

I need occasionally drive watergate. Because location is far away from 220V I suppose powering from SLA 12V battery charged from solar panel. Battery capacity 7-20Ah. Required motor power is 50-100W (torque I think >0.2Nm). Because of outdoor usage I need IP66 or so. Price is also essential.

I did not find any 12V DC motors and seems that 3 phase AC motor produced in large quantities is the only option.

I can use power inverter 12V-DC/220V-AC and 3 phase frequency changer (e.g. Sinamics G110) to power motor even with trapezoidal profile. Expected efficiency 85%*95%. It could be assembled from stock products and it should work. I don't think it's worth to do it as home-made application.

I wonder if I can do it much simpler when I make simple inverter (IRS2153+current sensing IR2127+FETs+toroid transformer 2x12V/220V) and connect to 3 phase motor using Steinmetz method. Output of inverter is rectangular 220V voltage with adjustable frequency (easy to implement IRS2153 has option to force switching frequency from MCU). enter image description here

The questions are:

  1. Steinmetz decrease motor power to 70% and starting torque to 50%. But I believe efficiency remains unchanged, i.e. in other words I can use stronger motor without power loss compared to regular 3-phase triangle connection. Is it true ?

  2. Is it possible to regulate motor revolutions via changing of inverter output freqeuncy (i.e. apply trapezoidal profile) ? I'm uncertain how Steinmetz capacitor value (70uF/1kW) is related to voltage frequency (50Hz).

  3. how motor copes with rectangular AC waveform? I think it may affect insulation bacause of voltage peaks.

I need occasionally drive watergate with gear box (e.g. http://www.servomech.com/main/screw-jacks.htm). Because location is far away from 220V I suppose powering from SLA 12V battery charged from solar panel. Battery capacity 7-20Ah. Required motor power is 50-100W (torque I think >0.2Nm). Because of outdoor usage I need IP66 or so. Price is also essential.

I did not find any 12V DC motors and seems that 3 phase AC motor (e.g. SIEMENS 1LA7063-6AB, 0.09kW,870 rev/min) produced in large quantities is the only option.

I can use power inverter 12V-DC/220V-AC and 3 phase frequency changer (e.g. Sinamics G110) to power motor even with trapezoidal profile. Expected efficiency 85%*95%. It could be assembled from stock products and it should work. I don't think it's worth to do it as home-made application.

I wonder if I can do it much simpler when I make simple inverter (IRS2153+current sensing IR2127+FETs+toroid transformer 2x12V/220V) and connect to 3 phase motor using Steinmetz method. Output of inverter is rectangular 220V voltage with adjustable frequency (easy to implement IRS2153 has option to force switching frequency from MCU). enter image description here

The questions are:

  1. Steinmetz decrease motor power to 70% and starting torque to 50%. But I believe efficiency remains unchanged, i.e. in other words I can use stronger motor without power loss compared to regular 3-phase triangle connection. Is it true ?

  2. Is it possible to regulate motor revolutions via changing of inverter output freqeuncy (i.e. apply trapezoidal profile) ? I'm uncertain how Steinmetz capacitor value (70uF/1kW) is related to voltage frequency (50Hz).

  3. how motor copes with rectangular AC waveform? I think it may affect insulation bacause of voltage peaks.

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I need occasionally drive watergate. Because location is far away from 220V I suppose powering from SLA 12V battery charged from solar panel. Battery capacity 7-20Ah. Required motor power is 50-100W (torque I think >0.2Nm). Because of outdoor usage I need IP66 or so. Price is also essential.

I did not find any 12V DC motors and seems that 3 phase AC motor produced in large quantities is the only option.

I can use power inverter 12V-DC/220V-AC and 3 phase frequency changer (e.g. Sinamics G110) to power motor even with trapezoidal profile. Expected efficiency 85%*95%. It could be assembled from stock products and it should work. I don't think it's worth to do it as home-made application.

I wonder if I can do it much simpler when I make simple inverter (IRS2153+current sensing IR2127+FETs+toroid transformer 2x12V/220V) and connect to 3 phase motor using Steinmetz method. Output of inverter is rectangular 220V voltage with adjustable frequency (easy to implement IRS2153 has option to force switching frequency from MCU). enter image description here

The questions are:

  1. Steinmetz decrease motor power to 70% and starting torque to 50%. But I believe efficiency remains unchanged, i.e. in other words I can use stronger motor without power loss compared to regular 3-phase triangle connection. Is it true ?

  2. Is it possible to regulate motor revolutions via changing of inverter output freqeuncy (i.e. apply trapezoidal profile) ? I'm uncertain how Steinmetz capacitor value (70uF/1kW) is related to voltage frequency (50Hz).

  3. how motor copes with rectangular AC waveform? I think it may affect insulation bacause of voltage peaks.

I need occasionally drive watergate. Because location is far away from 220V I suppose powering from SLA 12V battery charged from solar panel. Battery capacity 7-20Ah. Required motor power is 50-100W (torque I think >0.2Nm). Because of outdoor usage I need IP66 or so. Price is also essential.

I did not find any 12V DC motors and seems that 3 phase AC motor produced in large quantities is the only option.

I can use power inverter 12V-DC/220V-AC and 3 phase frequency changer (e.g. Sinamics G110) to power motor even with trapezoidal profile. Expected efficiency 85%*95%. It could be assembled from stock products and it should work. I don't think it's worth to do it as home-made application.

I wonder if I can do it much simpler when I make simple inverter (IRS2153+current sensing IR2127+FETs+toroid transformer 2x12V/220V) and connect to 3 phase motor using Steinmetz method. Output of inverter is rectangular 220V voltage with adjustable frequency (easy to implement IRS2153 has option to force switching frequency from MCU).

The questions are:

  1. Steinmetz decrease motor power to 70% and starting torque to 50%. But I believe efficiency remains unchanged, i.e. in other words I can use stronger motor without power loss compared to regular 3-phase triangle connection. Is it true ?

  2. Is it possible to regulate motor revolutions via changing of inverter output freqeuncy (i.e. apply trapezoidal profile) ? I'm uncertain how Steinmetz capacitor value (70uF/1kW) is related to voltage frequency (50Hz).

  3. how motor copes with rectangular AC waveform? I think it may affect insulation bacause of voltage peaks.

I need occasionally drive watergate. Because location is far away from 220V I suppose powering from SLA 12V battery charged from solar panel. Battery capacity 7-20Ah. Required motor power is 50-100W (torque I think >0.2Nm). Because of outdoor usage I need IP66 or so. Price is also essential.

I did not find any 12V DC motors and seems that 3 phase AC motor produced in large quantities is the only option.

I can use power inverter 12V-DC/220V-AC and 3 phase frequency changer (e.g. Sinamics G110) to power motor even with trapezoidal profile. Expected efficiency 85%*95%. It could be assembled from stock products and it should work. I don't think it's worth to do it as home-made application.

I wonder if I can do it much simpler when I make simple inverter (IRS2153+current sensing IR2127+FETs+toroid transformer 2x12V/220V) and connect to 3 phase motor using Steinmetz method. Output of inverter is rectangular 220V voltage with adjustable frequency (easy to implement IRS2153 has option to force switching frequency from MCU). enter image description here

The questions are:

  1. Steinmetz decrease motor power to 70% and starting torque to 50%. But I believe efficiency remains unchanged, i.e. in other words I can use stronger motor without power loss compared to regular 3-phase triangle connection. Is it true ?

  2. Is it possible to regulate motor revolutions via changing of inverter output freqeuncy (i.e. apply trapezoidal profile) ? I'm uncertain how Steinmetz capacitor value (70uF/1kW) is related to voltage frequency (50Hz).

  3. how motor copes with rectangular AC waveform? I think it may affect insulation bacause of voltage peaks.

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3 phase AC motor 220V powered from 12V battery

I need occasionally drive watergate. Because location is far away from 220V I suppose powering from SLA 12V battery charged from solar panel. Battery capacity 7-20Ah. Required motor power is 50-100W (torque I think >0.2Nm). Because of outdoor usage I need IP66 or so. Price is also essential.

I did not find any 12V DC motors and seems that 3 phase AC motor produced in large quantities is the only option.

I can use power inverter 12V-DC/220V-AC and 3 phase frequency changer (e.g. Sinamics G110) to power motor even with trapezoidal profile. Expected efficiency 85%*95%. It could be assembled from stock products and it should work. I don't think it's worth to do it as home-made application.

I wonder if I can do it much simpler when I make simple inverter (IRS2153+current sensing IR2127+FETs+toroid transformer 2x12V/220V) and connect to 3 phase motor using Steinmetz method. Output of inverter is rectangular 220V voltage with adjustable frequency (easy to implement IRS2153 has option to force switching frequency from MCU).

The questions are:

  1. Steinmetz decrease motor power to 70% and starting torque to 50%. But I believe efficiency remains unchanged, i.e. in other words I can use stronger motor without power loss compared to regular 3-phase triangle connection. Is it true ?

  2. Is it possible to regulate motor revolutions via changing of inverter output freqeuncy (i.e. apply trapezoidal profile) ? I'm uncertain how Steinmetz capacitor value (70uF/1kW) is related to voltage frequency (50Hz).

  3. how motor copes with rectangular AC waveform? I think it may affect insulation bacause of voltage peaks.