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A car ignition coil is far too small output current to be loaded by a 13nF MMC. As you mention, even a multimeter drags the output down.

Usually we use a Neon Sign Transformer (NST) with 10s of mA output current in this sort of setup. I notice you started with NST, which explains a lot! If you hired a U-Haul trailer, then found your car didn't have a tow-ball, would you tie it with string to your bicycle? You need a car for the trailer, you need an NST for 13nF. You have the reasons written on your diagram, coil output \$600\mu A\$.

If you want to continue with an iggy coil, then suggest you rectify the output so it can take its time to charge the capacitor to a high enough voltage for a decent spark. DC coils can work, though a rotary spark gap (RSG) is often necessary for extinguishing the arc after firing. Otherwise, tune the MMC down to work with the iggy coil. Either way, you need to change the design.

Unfortunately GFI-less NST's are becoming rarer, they're not being made these days. But that's what you need to make an unfussy TC that will just work.

SO is a very general forum, Tesla coiling has a very small active community. You would be far better off asking these questions on a dedicated TC forum, you'd get a much better signal to noise ratio. Start with the pupman lists (archive) or 4HV (active) for instance, where you can find the community that has the stuff, and the domain knowledge.

A car ignition coil is far too small output current to be loaded by a 13nF MMC. As you mention, even a multimeter drags the output down.

Usually we use a Neon Sign Transformer (NST) with 10s of mA output current in this sort of setup. I notice you started with NST, which explains a lot! If you hired a U-Haul trailer, then found your car didn't have a tow-ball, would you tie it with string to your bicycle? You need a car for the trailer, you need an NST for 13nF. You have the reasons written on your diagram, coil output \$600\mu A\$.

If you want to continue with an iggy coil, then suggest you rectify the output so it can take its time to charge the capacitor to a high enough voltage for a decent spark. DC coils can work, though a rotary spark gap (RSG) is often necessary for extinguishing the arc after firing.

Unfortunately GFI-less NST's are becoming rarer, they're not being made these days. But that's what you need to make an unfussy TC that will just work.

SO is a very general forum, Tesla coiling has a very small active community. You would be far better off asking these questions on a dedicated TC forum, you'd get a much better signal to noise ratio. Start with the pupman lists for instance, where you can find the community that has the stuff, and the domain knowledge.

A car ignition coil is far too small output current to be loaded by a 13nF MMC. As you mention, even a multimeter drags the output down.

Usually we use a Neon Sign Transformer (NST) with 10s of mA output current in this sort of setup. I notice you started with NST, which explains a lot! If you hired a U-Haul trailer, then found your car didn't have a tow-ball, would you tie it with string to your bicycle? You need a car for the trailer, you need an NST for 13nF. You have the reasons written on your diagram, coil output \$600\mu A\$.

If you want to continue with an iggy coil, then suggest you rectify the output so it can take its time to charge the capacitor to a high enough voltage for a decent spark. DC coils can work, though a rotary spark gap (RSG) is often necessary for extinguishing the arc after firing. Otherwise, tune the MMC down to work with the iggy coil. Either way, you need to change the design.

Unfortunately GFI-less NST's are becoming rarer, they're not being made these days. But that's what you need to make an unfussy TC that will just work.

SO is a very general forum, Tesla coiling has a very small active community. You would be far better off asking these questions on a dedicated TC forum, you'd get a much better signal to noise ratio. Start with the pupman lists (archive) or 4HV (active) for instance, where you can find the community that has the stuff, and the domain knowledge.

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A car ignition coil is far too small output current to be loaded by a 13nF MMC. As you mention, even a multimeter drags the output down.

Usually we use a Neon Sign Transformer (NST) with 10s of mA output current in this sort of setup. I notice you started with NST, which explains a lot! If you hired a U-Haul trailer, then found your car didn't have a tow-ball, would you tie it with string to your bicycle? You need a car for the trailer, you need an NST for 13nF. You have the reasons written on your diagram, coil output \$600\mu A\$.

If you want to continue with an iggy coil, then suggest you rectify the output to letso it can take its time to charge up the capacitor to a high enough voltage for a decent spark. DC coils can work, though a rotary spark gap (RSG) is often necessary for extinguishing the arc after firing.

Unfortunately GFI-less NST's are becoming rarer, they're not being made these days. But that's what you need to make an unfussy TC that will just work.

SO is a very general forum, Tesla coiling has a very small active community. You would be far better off asking these questions on a dedicated TC forum, you'd get a much better signal to noise ratio. Start with the pupman lists for instance, where you can find the community that has the stuff, and the domain knowledge.

A car ignition coil is far too small output current to be loaded by a 13nF MMC. As you mention, even a multimeter drags the output down.

Usually we use a Neon Sign Transformer (NST) with 10s of mA output current in this sort of setup. I notice you started with NST, which explains a lot! If you hired a U-Haul trailer, then found your car didn't have a tow-ball, would you tie it with string to your bicycle? You need a car for the trailer, you need an NST for 13nF.

If you want to continue with an iggy coil, then suggest you rectify the output to let it charge up the capacitor to a high enough voltage for a decent spark. DC coils can work, though a rotary spark gap (RSG) is often necessary for extinguishing the arc after firing.

Unfortunately GFI-less NST's are becoming rarer, they're not being made these days. But that's what you need to make an unfussy TC that will just work.

SO is a very general forum, Tesla coiling has a very small active community. You would be far better off asking these questions on a dedicated TC forum, you'd get a much better signal to noise ratio. Start with the pupman lists for instance, where you can find the community that has the stuff, and the knowledge.

A car ignition coil is far too small output current to be loaded by a 13nF MMC. As you mention, even a multimeter drags the output down.

Usually we use a Neon Sign Transformer (NST) with 10s of mA output current in this sort of setup. I notice you started with NST, which explains a lot! If you hired a U-Haul trailer, then found your car didn't have a tow-ball, would you tie it with string to your bicycle? You need a car for the trailer, you need an NST for 13nF. You have the reasons written on your diagram, coil output \$600\mu A\$.

If you want to continue with an iggy coil, then suggest you rectify the output so it can take its time to charge the capacitor to a high enough voltage for a decent spark. DC coils can work, though a rotary spark gap (RSG) is often necessary for extinguishing the arc after firing.

Unfortunately GFI-less NST's are becoming rarer, they're not being made these days. But that's what you need to make an unfussy TC that will just work.

SO is a very general forum, Tesla coiling has a very small active community. You would be far better off asking these questions on a dedicated TC forum, you'd get a much better signal to noise ratio. Start with the pupman lists for instance, where you can find the community that has the stuff, and the domain knowledge.

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A car ignition coil is far too small output current to be loaded by a 13nF MMC. As you mention, even a multimeter drags the output down.

Usually we use a Neon Sign Transformer (NST) with 10s of mA output current in this sort of setup. I notice you started with NST, thatwhich explains a lot! It's likeIf you hired a U-Haul trailer, then found your car didn't have a tow-ball, so tiedwould you tie it with string to your bicycle. Untie? You need a car for the trailer, and the bike worksyou need an NST for 13nF.

If you want to continue with an iggy coil, then suggest you rectify the output to let it charge up the capacitor to a high enough voltage for a decent spark. DC coils can work, though a rotary spark gap (RSG) is often necessary for extinguishing the arc after firing.

Unfortunately GFI-less NST's are becoming rarer, they're not being made these days. But that's what you need to make an unfussy TC that will just work. There are some specialist forums for

SO is a very general forum, Tesla coiling has a very small active community. You would be far better off asking these questions on a dedicated TC makersforum, seeyou'd get a much better signal to noise ratio. Start with the pupman lists for instance, where you can find the community that has the stuff, and the knowledge.

A car ignition coil is far too small output current to be loaded by a 13nF MMC. As you mention, even a multimeter drags the output down.

Usually we use a Neon Sign Transformer (NST) with 10s of mA output current in this sort of setup. I notice you started with NST, that explains a lot! It's like you hired a U-Haul trailer, found your car didn't have a tow-ball, so tied it with string to your bicycle. Untie the trailer, and the bike works.

If you want to continue with an iggy coil, then suggest you rectify the output to let it charge up the capacitor to a high enough voltage for a decent spark. DC coils can work, though a rotary spark gap (RSG) is often necessary for extinguishing the arc after firing.

Unfortunately GFI-less NST's are becoming rarer, they're not being made these days. But that's what you need to make an unfussy TC that will just work. There are some specialist forums for TC makers, see the pupman lists for instance, where you can find the community that has the stuff.

A car ignition coil is far too small output current to be loaded by a 13nF MMC. As you mention, even a multimeter drags the output down.

Usually we use a Neon Sign Transformer (NST) with 10s of mA output current in this sort of setup. I notice you started with NST, which explains a lot! If you hired a U-Haul trailer, then found your car didn't have a tow-ball, would you tie it with string to your bicycle? You need a car for the trailer, you need an NST for 13nF.

If you want to continue with an iggy coil, then suggest you rectify the output to let it charge up the capacitor to a high enough voltage for a decent spark. DC coils can work, though a rotary spark gap (RSG) is often necessary for extinguishing the arc after firing.

Unfortunately GFI-less NST's are becoming rarer, they're not being made these days. But that's what you need to make an unfussy TC that will just work.

SO is a very general forum, Tesla coiling has a very small active community. You would be far better off asking these questions on a dedicated TC forum, you'd get a much better signal to noise ratio. Start with the pupman lists for instance, where you can find the community that has the stuff, and the knowledge.

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