Skip to main content
Bumped by Community user
Bumped by Community user
added 57 characters in body; edited title
Source Link
ocrdu
  • 9.3k
  • 23
  • 32
  • 42

How to properly control 220Va 220 V, 500 W DC motor

I need to turn ON/OFF a 220Vdc220 VDC, 500W motor as well as changing it’sits speed and reversing direction using a PLC and 3 relays as shown in attached drawing. 

I am planning to supply 160Vdc160 VDC for high speed and 35Vdc35 VDC for low speed using a step down-down transformer combined with a rectifier. 

My question lies on the relay. What relay size should I use? Although I can find relayrelays with a 10  - 15A15 A rating, most of them are rated in AC-1 (resistive load). According to my understanding, the rating will become much lower when used for DC inductive load, especially with a higher DC voltage. 

Furthermore, I can only find DC ratingratings up to 48 VDcVDC at most. I can't find any relay spec for 160VDc160 VDC. The best component I found so far is ABB's AF contactor series which has DC-13 specificationspecifications. 

However, I was very surprised to find that their AF09-30-10-13 series which is rated at 25A AC-1 is only rated 0.27A27 A in DC-13 220Vdc220 VDC. I was planning to just use a large oversized relay (80 to 120A120 A rating @ AC-1) for driving a high voltage-voltage DC load, but I am not sure anymore after reading the ABB's spec.

I am all ears if anyone havehas any suggestionsuggestions.

EDIT: Actually, both relayRelay Fast and RelayrmRelay Run are handling AC current as they operate before the rectifier. Therefore, only Relay Fwd is exposed to DC current as it'sits function is to reverse the motor's direction. However, that relay will only trigger before and after motor run. So it behavebehaves more like a railway track that switchswitches position before the train pass. 

Having this behavior, do I still need to worry about the relay's arc issue as there is no breaking involved when current is flowing? or isOr are there any other issues that I am unaware of? If not, is it safe to just use a standard 15A15 A relay rated for AC-1 for the direction relay?

Wiring Diagram

Motor Plate

How to properly control 220V, 500 W DC motor

I need to turn ON/OFF a 220Vdc, 500W motor as well as changing it’s speed and reversing direction using PLC and 3 relays as shown in attached drawing. I am planning to supply 160Vdc for high speed and 35Vdc for low speed using step down transformer combined with rectifier. My question lies on the relay. What relay size should I use? Although I can find relay with 10  - 15A rating, most of them are rated in AC-1 (resistive load). According to my understanding, the rating will become much lower when used for DC inductive load especially with higher DC voltage. Furthermore, I can only find DC rating up to 48 VDc at most. I can't find any relay spec for 160VDc. The best component I found so far is ABB's AF contactor series which has DC-13 specification. However, I was very surprised to find that their AF09-30-10-13 series which is rated at 25A AC-1 is only rated 0.27A in DC-13 220Vdc. I was planning to just use large oversized relay (80 to 120A rating @ AC-1) for driving high voltage DC load but I am not sure anymore after reading the ABB's spec.

I am all ears if anyone have any suggestion.

EDIT: Actually, both relay Fast and Relay Run are handling AC current as they operate before the rectifier. Therefore, only Relay Fwd is exposed to DC current as it's function is to reverse motor's direction. However, that relay will only trigger before and after motor run. So it behave more like railway track that switch position before the train pass. Having this behavior, do I still need to worry about relay's arc issue as there is no breaking involved when current is flowing? or is there any other issues that I am unaware of? If not, is it safe to just use standard 15A relay rated for AC-1 for the direction relay?

Wiring Diagram

Motor Plate

How to properly control a 220 V, 500 W DC motor

I need to turn ON/OFF a 220 VDC, 500W motor as well as changing its speed and reversing direction using a PLC and 3 relays as shown in attached drawing. 

I am planning to supply 160 VDC for high speed and 35 VDC for low speed using a step-down transformer combined with a rectifier. 

My question lies on the relay. What relay size should I use? Although I can find relays with a 10-15 A rating, most of them are rated in AC-1 (resistive load). According to my understanding, the rating will become much lower when used for DC inductive load, especially with a higher DC voltage. 

Furthermore, I can only find DC ratings up to 48 VDC at most. I can't find any relay spec for 160 VDC. The best component I found so far is ABB's AF contactor series which has DC-13 specifications. 

However, I was very surprised to find that their AF09-30-10-13 series which is rated at 25A AC-1 is only rated 0.27 A in DC-13 220 VDC. I was planning to just use a large oversized relay (80 to 120 A rating @ AC-1) for driving a high-voltage DC load, but I am not sure anymore after reading the ABB's spec.

I am all ears if anyone has any suggestions.

EDIT: Actually, both Relay Fast and rmRelay Run are handling AC current as they operate before the rectifier. Therefore, only Relay Fwd is exposed to DC current as its function is to reverse the motor's direction. However, that relay will only trigger before and after motor run. So it behaves more like a railway track that switches position before the train pass. 

Having this behavior, do I still need to worry about the relay's arc issue as there is no breaking involved when current is flowing? Or are there any other issues that I am unaware of? If not, is it safe to just use a standard 15 A relay rated for AC-1 for the direction relay?

Wiring Diagram

Motor Plate

added 108 characters in body
Source Link

I need to turn ON/OFF a 220Vdc, 500W motor as well as changing it’s speed and reversing direction using PLC and 3 relays as shown in attached drawing. I am planning to supply 160Vdc for high speed and 35Vdc for low speed using step down transformer combined with rectifier. My question lies on the relay. What relay size should I use? Although I can find relay with 10 - 15A rating, most of them are rated in AC-1 (resistive load). According to my understanding, the rating will become much lower when used for DC inductive load especially with higher DC voltage. Furthermore, I can only find DC rating up to 48 VDc at most. I can't find any relay spec for 160VDc. The best component I found so far is ABB's AF contactor series which has DC-13 specification. However, I was very surprised to find that their AF09-30-10-13 series which is rated at 25A AC-1 is only rated 0.27A in DC-13 220Vdc. I was planning to just use large oversized relay (80 to 120A rating @ AC-1) for driving high voltage DC load but I am not sure anymore after reading the ABB's spec.

I am all ears if anyone have any suggestion.

EDIT: Actually, both relay Fast and Relay Run are actually handling AC current as they operate before the rectifier. Therefore, only Relay Fwd is exposed to DC current as it's function is to reverse motor's direction. However, that relay will only trigger before and after motor run. So it behave more like railway track that switch position before the train pass. Having this behavior, do I still need to worry about relay's arc, welding, issue as there is no breaking involved when current is flowing? or is there any other related issueissues that I am unaware of? IsIf not, is it safe to just use standard 15A relay rated for AC-1 for the direction relay?

Wiring Diagram

Motor Plate

I need to turn ON/OFF a 220Vdc, 500W motor as well as changing it’s speed and reversing direction using PLC and 3 relays as shown in attached drawing. I am planning to supply 160Vdc for high speed and 35Vdc for low speed using step down transformer combined with rectifier. My question lies on the relay. What relay size should I use? Although I can find relay with 10 - 15A rating, most of them are rated in AC-1 (resistive load). According to my understanding, the rating will become much lower when used for DC inductive load especially with higher DC voltage. Furthermore, I can only find DC rating up to 48 VDc at most. I can't find any relay spec for 160VDc. The best component I found so far is ABB's AF contactor series which has DC-13 specification. However, I was very surprised to find that their AF09-30-10-13 series which is rated at 25A AC-1 is only rated 0.27A in DC-13 220Vdc. I was planning to just use large oversized relay (80 to 120A rating @ AC-1) for driving high voltage DC load but I am not sure anymore after reading the ABB's spec.

I am all ears if anyone have any suggestion.

EDIT: Actually, both relay Fast and Relay Run are actually handling AC current as they operate before the rectifier. Therefore, only Relay Fwd is exposed to DC current as it's function is to reverse motor's direction. However, that relay will only trigger before and after motor run. So it behave more like railway track that switch position before the train pass. Having this behavior, do I still need to worry about relay's arc, welding, or any other related issue? Is it safe to just use standard 15A relay rated for AC-1 ?

Wiring Diagram

Motor Plate

I need to turn ON/OFF a 220Vdc, 500W motor as well as changing it’s speed and reversing direction using PLC and 3 relays as shown in attached drawing. I am planning to supply 160Vdc for high speed and 35Vdc for low speed using step down transformer combined with rectifier. My question lies on the relay. What relay size should I use? Although I can find relay with 10 - 15A rating, most of them are rated in AC-1 (resistive load). According to my understanding, the rating will become much lower when used for DC inductive load especially with higher DC voltage. Furthermore, I can only find DC rating up to 48 VDc at most. I can't find any relay spec for 160VDc. The best component I found so far is ABB's AF contactor series which has DC-13 specification. However, I was very surprised to find that their AF09-30-10-13 series which is rated at 25A AC-1 is only rated 0.27A in DC-13 220Vdc. I was planning to just use large oversized relay (80 to 120A rating @ AC-1) for driving high voltage DC load but I am not sure anymore after reading the ABB's spec.

I am all ears if anyone have any suggestion.

EDIT: Actually, both relay Fast and Relay Run are handling AC current as they operate before the rectifier. Therefore, only Relay Fwd is exposed to DC current as it's function is to reverse motor's direction. However, that relay will only trigger before and after motor run. So it behave more like railway track that switch position before the train pass. Having this behavior, do I still need to worry about relay's arc issue as there is no breaking involved when current is flowing? or is there any other issues that I am unaware of? If not, is it safe to just use standard 15A relay rated for AC-1 for the direction relay?

Wiring Diagram

Motor Plate

added 540 characters in body
Source Link

I need to turn ON/OFF a 220Vdc, 500W motor as well as changing it’s speed and reversing direction using PLC and 3 relays as shown in attached drawing. I am planning to supply 160Vdc for high speed and 35Vdc for low speed using step down transformer combined with rectifier. My question lies on the relay. What relay size should I use? Although I can find relay with 10 - 15A rating, most of them are rated in AC-1 (resistive load). According to my understanding, the rating will become much lower when used for DC inductive load especially with higher DC voltage. Furthermore, I can only find DC rating up to 48 VDc at most. I can't find any relay spec for 160VDc. The best component I found so far is ABB's AF contactor series which has DC-13 specification. However, I was very surprised to find that their AF09-30-10-13 series which is rated at 25A AC-1 is only rated 0.27A in DC-13 220Vdc. I was planning to just use large oversized relay (80 to 120A rating @ AC-1) for driving high voltage DC load but I am not sure anymore after reading the ABB's spec.

I am all ears if anyone have any suggestion.

EDIT: Actually, both relay Fast and Relay Run are actually handling AC current as they operate before the rectifier. Therefore, only Relay Fwd is exposed to DC current as it's function is to reverse motor's direction. However, that relay will only trigger before and after motor run. So it behave more like railway track that switch position before the train pass. Having this behavior, do I still need to worry about relay's arc, welding, or any other related issue? Is it safe to just use standard 15A relay rated for AC-1 ?

Wiring Diagram

Motor Plate

I need to turn ON/OFF a 220Vdc, 500W motor as well as changing it’s speed and reversing direction using PLC and 3 relays as shown in attached drawing. I am planning to supply 160Vdc for high speed and 35Vdc for low speed using step down transformer combined with rectifier. My question lies on the relay. What relay size should I use? Although I can find relay with 10 - 15A rating, most of them are rated in AC-1 (resistive load). According to my understanding, the rating will become much lower when used for DC inductive load especially with higher DC voltage. Furthermore, I can only find DC rating up to 48 VDc at most. I can't find any relay spec for 160VDc. The best component I found so far is ABB's AF contactor series which has DC-13 specification. However, I was very surprised to find that their AF09-30-10-13 series which is rated at 25A AC-1 is only rated 0.27A in DC-13 220Vdc. I was planning to just use large oversized relay (80 to 120A rating @ AC-1) for driving high voltage DC load but I am not sure anymore after reading the ABB's spec.

I am all ears if anyone have any suggestion.

Wiring Diagram

Motor Plate

I need to turn ON/OFF a 220Vdc, 500W motor as well as changing it’s speed and reversing direction using PLC and 3 relays as shown in attached drawing. I am planning to supply 160Vdc for high speed and 35Vdc for low speed using step down transformer combined with rectifier. My question lies on the relay. What relay size should I use? Although I can find relay with 10 - 15A rating, most of them are rated in AC-1 (resistive load). According to my understanding, the rating will become much lower when used for DC inductive load especially with higher DC voltage. Furthermore, I can only find DC rating up to 48 VDc at most. I can't find any relay spec for 160VDc. The best component I found so far is ABB's AF contactor series which has DC-13 specification. However, I was very surprised to find that their AF09-30-10-13 series which is rated at 25A AC-1 is only rated 0.27A in DC-13 220Vdc. I was planning to just use large oversized relay (80 to 120A rating @ AC-1) for driving high voltage DC load but I am not sure anymore after reading the ABB's spec.

I am all ears if anyone have any suggestion.

EDIT: Actually, both relay Fast and Relay Run are actually handling AC current as they operate before the rectifier. Therefore, only Relay Fwd is exposed to DC current as it's function is to reverse motor's direction. However, that relay will only trigger before and after motor run. So it behave more like railway track that switch position before the train pass. Having this behavior, do I still need to worry about relay's arc, welding, or any other related issue? Is it safe to just use standard 15A relay rated for AC-1 ?

Wiring Diagram

Motor Plate

Source Link
Loading