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I've been struggling with getting this circuit to work. My objective to try to use low-power (3.3 V/μA), low-cost, jellybean components. The idea of this circuit is that we have six latching buttons for tamper detection connected to one single dedicated pin while in a battery operated backup mode.

In a tamper situation the button toggles the inputs state from open-circuit to ground which generates a single sharp drop of capacitor charge which goes into a hex Schmitt trigger inverter which outputs this glitch as a positive pulse. The reason for using this RC circuit is that I need to be able to manipulate my 1 interrupt pin (dedicated) to get an interrupt from all six switches without having a single switch to latch the pin to ground indefinitely, making it impossible to detect any further tamper switching events.

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Blue trace = switch (pressed = 0 V) Green trace = inverter output

After building this circuit it works when the pull-up and the resistor in the RC circuit at the input of the inverter do not exceed 22 kΩ The Problem is that the the Schmitt trigger inverter input struggles to work with weaker pullups (680 kΩ for example). My intention is to have the lowest possible current consumption.

The inverter I'm using an M74HC14 as this what is available in my local area. I've scoured the internet for quite some time but I've not found any datasheet stating anything of help. Are there any types of inverter/Schmitt trigger that work without problems with big resistors at their inputs?

I've thought of maybe using inverting buffers which have Schmitt trigger inputs, but they are going to be ordered internationally so I would really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on what to look for if they tolerate the high resistor pull-up situation.

Another take I may just ditch the Schmitt trigger inverter and just rely on pure RC circuitry. Now this circuit works if implemented with one switch and the output works like shown below without problems.

enter image description here Blue trace = Switch (pressed = 0V) Green trace = RC Circuit output (@ R2 & C1)

The problem starts when I try to duplicate this circuit and make a total of 6 parallel circuits. I tried separating each out of a circuit with a series diode and of course I installed a clamp diode right where I tie the outputs together to one pin, but the circuit would get worse and anyway would not work when compared to just 1 circuit alone**, the voltage drop at the output of RC Circuit now does not drop to zero, drops down from 3.2 V maybe to around 2.44 V (low) which is far the region to be recognized by the microcontroller as a zero (low).

If anyone needs more information, please let me know, and thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this thread.

I've been struggling with getting this circuit to work. My objective to try to use low-power (3.3 V/μA), low-cost, jellybean components. The idea of this circuit is that we have six latching buttons for tamper detection connected to one single dedicated pin while in a battery operated backup mode.

In a tamper situation the button toggles the inputs state from open-circuit to ground which generates a single sharp drop of capacitor charge which goes into a hex Schmitt trigger inverter which outputs this glitch as a positive pulse. The reason for using this RC circuit is that I need to be able to manipulate my 1 interrupt pin (dedicated) to get an interrupt from all six switches without having a single switch to latch the pin to ground indefinitely, making it impossible to detect any further tamper switching events.

enter image description here

Blue trace = switch (pressed = 0 V) Green trace = inverter output

After building this circuit it works when the pull-up and the resistor in the RC circuit at the input of the inverter do not exceed 22 kΩ The Problem is that the the Schmitt trigger inverter input struggles to work with weaker pullups (680 kΩ for example). My intention is to have the lowest possible current consumption.

The inverter I'm using an M74HC14 as this what is available in my local area. I've scoured the internet for quite some time but I've not found any datasheet stating anything of help. Are there any types of inverter/Schmitt trigger that work without problems with big resistors at their inputs?

I've thought of maybe using inverting buffers which have Schmitt trigger inputs, but they are going to be ordered internationally so I would really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on what to look for if they tolerate the high resistor pull-up situation.

If anyone needs more information, please let me know, and thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this thread.

I've been struggling with getting this circuit to work. My objective to try to use low-power (3.3 V/μA), low-cost, jellybean components. The idea of this circuit is that we have six latching buttons for tamper detection connected to one single dedicated pin while in a battery operated backup mode.

In a tamper situation the button toggles the inputs state from open-circuit to ground which generates a single sharp drop of capacitor charge which goes into a hex Schmitt trigger inverter which outputs this glitch as a positive pulse. The reason for using this RC circuit is that I need to be able to manipulate my 1 interrupt pin (dedicated) to get an interrupt from all six switches without having a single switch to latch the pin to ground indefinitely, making it impossible to detect any further tamper switching events.

enter image description here

Blue trace = switch (pressed = 0 V) Green trace = inverter output

After building this circuit it works when the pull-up and the resistor in the RC circuit at the input of the inverter do not exceed 22 kΩ The Problem is that the the Schmitt trigger inverter input struggles to work with weaker pullups (680 kΩ for example). My intention is to have the lowest possible current consumption.

The inverter I'm using an M74HC14 as this what is available in my local area. I've scoured the internet for quite some time but I've not found any datasheet stating anything of help. Are there any types of inverter/Schmitt trigger that work without problems with big resistors at their inputs?

I've thought of maybe using inverting buffers which have Schmitt trigger inputs, but they are going to be ordered internationally so I would really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on what to look for if they tolerate the high resistor pull-up situation.

Another take I may just ditch the Schmitt trigger inverter and just rely on pure RC circuitry. Now this circuit works if implemented with one switch and the output works like shown below without problems.

enter image description here Blue trace = Switch (pressed = 0V) Green trace = RC Circuit output (@ R2 & C1)

The problem starts when I try to duplicate this circuit and make a total of 6 parallel circuits. I tried separating each out of a circuit with a series diode and of course I installed a clamp diode right where I tie the outputs together to one pin, but the circuit would get worse and anyway would not work when compared to just 1 circuit alone**, the voltage drop at the output of RC Circuit now does not drop to zero, drops down from 3.2 V maybe to around 2.44 V (low) which is far the region to be recognized by the microcontroller as a zero (low).

If anyone needs more information, please let me know, and thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this thread.

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I've been struggling with getting this circuit to work. My objective to try to use low-power (3.3 V/μA), low-cost, jellybean components. The idea of this circuit is that we have six latching buttons for tamper detection connected to one single dedicated pin while in a battery operated backup mode.

In a tamper situation the button toggles the inputs state from open-circuit to ground which generates a single sharp drop of capacitor charge which goes into a hex Schmitt trigger inverter which outputs this glitch as a positive pulse. The reason for using this RC circuit is that I need to be able to manipulate my 1 interrupt pin (dedicated) to get an interrupt from all six switches without having a single switch to latch the pin to ground indefinitely, making it impossible to detect any further tamper switching events.

enter image description here

Blue trace = switch (pressed = 0 V) Green trace = inverter output

After building this circuit it works when the pull-up and the resistor in the RC circuit at the input of the inverter do not exceed 22 kΩ as the Schmitt trigger inverter struggles to work with weaker pullups (680 kΩ for example)The Problem is that the the Schmitt trigger inverter input struggles to work with weaker pullups (680 kΩ for example). My intention is to have the lowest possible current consumption.

The inverter I'm using an M74HC14 as this what is available in my local area. I've scoured the internet for quite some time but I've not found any datasheet stating anything of help. Are there any types of inverter/Schmitt trigger that work without problems with big resistors at their inputs?

I've thought of maybe using inverting buffers which have Schmitt trigger inputs, but they are going to be ordered internationally so I would really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on what to look for if they tolerate the high resistor pull-up situation.

If anyone needs more information, please let me know, and thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this thread.

I've been struggling with getting this circuit to work. My objective to try to use low-power (3.3 V/μA), low-cost, jellybean components. The idea of this circuit is that we have six latching buttons for tamper detection connected to one single dedicated pin while in a battery operated backup mode.

In a tamper situation the button toggles the inputs state from open-circuit to ground which generates a single sharp drop of capacitor charge which goes into a hex Schmitt trigger inverter which outputs this glitch as a positive pulse. The reason for using this RC circuit is that I need to be able to manipulate my 1 interrupt pin (dedicated) to get an interrupt from all six switches without having a single switch to latch the pin to ground indefinitely, making it impossible to detect any further tamper switching events.

enter image description here

Blue trace = switch (pressed = 0 V) Green trace = inverter output

After building this circuit it works when the pull-up and the resistor in the RC circuit at the input of the inverter do not exceed 22 kΩ as the Schmitt trigger inverter struggles to work with weaker pullups (680 kΩ for example). My intention is to have the lowest possible current consumption.

The inverter I'm using an M74HC14 as this what is available in my local area. I've scoured the internet for quite some time but I've not found any datasheet stating anything of help. Are there any types of inverter/Schmitt trigger that work without problems with big resistors at their inputs?

I've thought of maybe using inverting buffers which have Schmitt trigger inputs, but they are going to be ordered internationally so I would really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on what to look for if they tolerate the high resistor pull-up situation.

If anyone needs more information, please let me know, and thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this thread.

I've been struggling with getting this circuit to work. My objective to try to use low-power (3.3 V/μA), low-cost, jellybean components. The idea of this circuit is that we have six latching buttons for tamper detection connected to one single dedicated pin while in a battery operated backup mode.

In a tamper situation the button toggles the inputs state from open-circuit to ground which generates a single sharp drop of capacitor charge which goes into a hex Schmitt trigger inverter which outputs this glitch as a positive pulse. The reason for using this RC circuit is that I need to be able to manipulate my 1 interrupt pin (dedicated) to get an interrupt from all six switches without having a single switch to latch the pin to ground indefinitely, making it impossible to detect any further tamper switching events.

enter image description here

Blue trace = switch (pressed = 0 V) Green trace = inverter output

After building this circuit it works when the pull-up and the resistor in the RC circuit at the input of the inverter do not exceed 22 kΩ The Problem is that the the Schmitt trigger inverter input struggles to work with weaker pullups (680 kΩ for example). My intention is to have the lowest possible current consumption.

The inverter I'm using an M74HC14 as this what is available in my local area. I've scoured the internet for quite some time but I've not found any datasheet stating anything of help. Are there any types of inverter/Schmitt trigger that work without problems with big resistors at their inputs?

I've thought of maybe using inverting buffers which have Schmitt trigger inputs, but they are going to be ordered internationally so I would really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on what to look for if they tolerate the high resistor pull-up situation.

If anyone needs more information, please let me know, and thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this thread.

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Need help inwith a simple seemingly simple RC Circuitcircuit with a Schmitt trigger inverter

I've been struggling inwith getting this circuit working in my work and I'm really embarrassed to say I spent around 3 days trying to get it workingwork. My objective to try to use low power-power (3.3 V/μA), low cost and-cost, jellybean components. The idea of this circuit is that we have six latching buttons for tamper detection connected to one single dedicated pin while in a battery operated backup mode. 

In a tamper situation the button toggles the inputs state from O/Copen-circuit to ground which generates a single sharp drop of capacitor charge which goes into a hex Schmitt trigger inverter which outputs this glitch toas a positive pulse, the. The reason for using this RC circuit is that I need to be able to manipulate my 1 interrupt pin (dedicated) to get an interrupt from all six switches without having a single switch to latch the pin to ground indefinitely, making it impossible to detect any further tamper switching events.

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Blue trace = Switchswitch (pressed = 0 V) Green trace Inverter= inverter output

Now afterAfter building this circuit it works when the pulluppull-up and the resistor in the RC circuit at the input of the inverter do not exceed 22 kΩ as the Schmitt trigger inverter struggles to work with weaker pullups (680 kΩ for example), my. My intention is to have the lowest possible current consumption,.

The inverter I'm using an M74HC14 as this what is available in my local area. I've scoured the internet for quite some time but I've not found any datasheet stating anything of help. Are there any typetypes of inverter/Schmitt trigger that workswork without problems with big resistors at their inputs?

I've thought of maybe using inverting buffers which have Schmitt trigger inputs, but they are going to be ordered internationally so I would really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on what to look for if they tolerate the high resistor pulluppull-up situation. 

If anyone needs more information, please let me know, and thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this thread.

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Need help in a simple seemingly simple RC Circuit with a Schmitt trigger inverter

I've been struggling in getting this circuit working in my work and I'm really embarrassed to say I spent around 3 days trying to get it working. My objective to try to use low power (3.3 V/μA), low cost and jellybean components. The idea of this circuit is we have six latching buttons for tamper detection connected to one single dedicated pin while in a battery operated backup mode. In a tamper situation the button toggles the inputs state from O/C to ground which generates a single sharp drop of capacitor charge which goes into a hex Schmitt trigger inverter outputs this glitch to a positive pulse, the reason for using this RC circuit is that I need to be able to manipulate my 1 interrupt pin (dedicated) to get an interrupt from all six switches without having a single switch to latch the pin to ground indefinitely, making it impossible to detect any further tamper switching events.

enter image description here

Blue trace = Switch (pressed = 0 V) Green trace Inverter output

Now after building this circuit it works when the pullup and the resistor in the RC circuit at the input of inverter do not exceed 22 kΩ as the Schmitt trigger inverter struggles to work with weaker pullups (680 kΩ for example), my intention is to have the lowest possible current consumption, The inverter I'm using an M74HC14 as this what is available in my local area. I've scoured the internet for quite some time but I've not found any datasheet stating anything of help. Are there any type of inverter/Schmitt trigger that works without problems with big resistors at their inputs?

I've thought of maybe using inverting buffers which have Schmitt trigger inputs, but they are going to be ordered internationally so I would really appreciate it if someone shed some light on what to look for if they tolerate the high resistor pullup situation. If anyone needs more information, please let me know, and thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this thread.

BR

Need help with a seemingly simple RC circuit with a Schmitt trigger inverter

I've been struggling with getting this circuit to work. My objective to try to use low-power (3.3 V/μA), low-cost, jellybean components. The idea of this circuit is that we have six latching buttons for tamper detection connected to one single dedicated pin while in a battery operated backup mode. 

In a tamper situation the button toggles the inputs state from open-circuit to ground which generates a single sharp drop of capacitor charge which goes into a hex Schmitt trigger inverter which outputs this glitch as a positive pulse. The reason for using this RC circuit is that I need to be able to manipulate my 1 interrupt pin (dedicated) to get an interrupt from all six switches without having a single switch to latch the pin to ground indefinitely, making it impossible to detect any further tamper switching events.

enter image description here

Blue trace = switch (pressed = 0 V) Green trace = inverter output

After building this circuit it works when the pull-up and the resistor in the RC circuit at the input of the inverter do not exceed 22 kΩ as the Schmitt trigger inverter struggles to work with weaker pullups (680 kΩ for example). My intention is to have the lowest possible current consumption.

The inverter I'm using an M74HC14 as this what is available in my local area. I've scoured the internet for quite some time but I've not found any datasheet stating anything of help. Are there any types of inverter/Schmitt trigger that work without problems with big resistors at their inputs?

I've thought of maybe using inverting buffers which have Schmitt trigger inputs, but they are going to be ordered internationally so I would really appreciate it if someone could shed some light on what to look for if they tolerate the high resistor pull-up situation. 

If anyone needs more information, please let me know, and thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this thread.

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