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Investigate methods for analog Input OvervolatgeOvervoltage fault protection

I have 8 analog input coming from various 5v and 3.3v sensors that have to be interfaced to a 3.3v micro-controller. The main system voltage is 24v-48v , i need to protect the ADC inputs against over-voltage from misuse , not ESD events. So if by mistake the 48v is connected instead of the sensor.

after looking into the following threads :

How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?

ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy

i tried the following :

  • Approach 1: Resistor and Zener

This approach is fine on digital pins but confirmed what people said in the posts about voltage drop and ADC error. I heard that using a shunt regulator like the TL431 instead could help but haven't tried it!?

  • Approach 2: Series Resistor and External clipping diodes

The approach works fine it have tries BAS70,BAT54 and similar , inorderin order to get lower drop i have found that using power (1A) schottky is better because they have much lower voltage drop at 1-25mA .

  • Approach 3: OPAMP, Resistor and diode

this approach i have found is not very common , and work fairly well , similar to approach 2 but more complicated.

Circuit

  • Approach 4: Unity Gain opamp with internal Clamp

Texas instruments have a product for this role exclusively. OP698

BUT: this lowest single supply is 5v not 3.3v , and the maximum clamping voltage is lower than the rail . and it doesnotdoes not tell how much is the maximum input voltage. and it takes PCB space , 4 resistors and 1 SO-08 IC per input.

Question :

At this point of search i got a bit frustrated and i think now that Approach 2 is the best in terms of robustness and space, please help and state any other approach i am missing ??
I am also interested in exotic solutions similar to automotive Input/ Output ICs that have multiple inputs and protection built in to interface the processors to harsh environment. similar to this MAX6816 used for digital signals.

Investigate methods for analog Input Overvolatge fault protection

I have 8 analog input coming from various 5v and 3.3v sensors that have to be interfaced to a 3.3v micro-controller. The main system voltage is 24v-48v , i need to protect the ADC inputs against over-voltage from misuse , not ESD events. So if by mistake the 48v is connected instead of the sensor.

after looking into the following threads :

How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?

ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy

i tried the following :

  • Approach 1: Resistor and Zener

This approach is fine on digital pins but confirmed what people said in the posts about voltage drop and ADC error. I heard that using a shunt regulator like the TL431 instead could help but haven't tried it!?

  • Approach 2: Series Resistor and External clipping diodes

The approach works fine it have tries BAS70,BAT54 and similar , inorder to get lower drop i have found that using power (1A) schottky is better because they have much lower voltage drop at 1-25mA .

  • Approach 3: OPAMP, Resistor and diode

this approach i have found is not very common , and work fairly well , similar to approach 2 but more complicated.

Circuit

  • Approach 4: Unity Gain opamp with internal Clamp

Texas instruments have a product for this role exclusively. OP698

BUT: this lowest single supply is 5v not 3.3v , and the maximum clamping voltage is lower than the rail . and it doesnot tell how much is the maximum input voltage. and it takes PCB space , 4 resistors and 1 SO-08 IC per input.

Question :

At this point of search i got a bit frustrated and i think now that Approach 2 is the best in terms of robustness and space, please help and state any other approach i am missing ??
I am also interested in exotic solutions similar to automotive Input/ Output ICs that have multiple inputs and protection built in to interface the processors to harsh environment. similar to this MAX6816 used for digital signals.

Investigate methods for analog Input Overvoltage fault protection

I have 8 analog input coming from various 5v and 3.3v sensors that have to be interfaced to a 3.3v micro-controller. The main system voltage is 24v-48v , i need to protect the ADC inputs against over-voltage from misuse , not ESD events. So if by mistake the 48v is connected instead of the sensor.

after looking into the following threads :

How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?

ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy

i tried the following :

  • Approach 1: Resistor and Zener

This approach is fine on digital pins but confirmed what people said in the posts about voltage drop and ADC error. I heard that using a shunt regulator like the TL431 instead could help but haven't tried it!?

  • Approach 2: Series Resistor and External clipping diodes

The approach works fine it have tries BAS70,BAT54 and similar , in order to get lower drop i have found that using power (1A) schottky is better because they have much lower voltage drop at 1-25mA .

  • Approach 3: OPAMP, Resistor and diode

this approach i have found is not very common , and work fairly well , similar to approach 2 but more complicated.

Circuit

  • Approach 4: Unity Gain opamp with internal Clamp

Texas instruments have a product for this role exclusively. OP698

BUT: this lowest single supply is 5v not 3.3v , and the maximum clamping voltage is lower than the rail . and it does not tell how much is the maximum input voltage. and it takes PCB space , 4 resistors and 1 SO-08 IC per input.

Question :

At this point of search i got a bit frustrated and i think now that Approach 2 is the best in terms of robustness and space, please help and state any other approach i am missing ??
I am also interested in exotic solutions similar to automotive Input/ Output ICs that have multiple inputs and protection built in to interface the processors to harsh environment. similar to this MAX6816 used for digital signals.

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I have 8 analog input coming from various 5v and 3.3v sensors that have to be interfaced to a 3.3v micro-controller. The main system voltage is 24v-48v , i need to protect the ADC inputs against over-voltage from misuse , not ESD events. So if by mistake the 48v is connected instead of the sensor.

after looking into the following threads :

How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?

ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracyADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy

i tried the following :

  • Approach 1: Resistor and Zener

This approach is fine on digital pins but confirmed what people said in the posts about voltage drop and ADC error. I heard that using a shunt regulator like the TL431 instead could help but haven't tried it!?

  • Approach 2: Series Resistor and External clipping diodes

The approach works fine it have tries BAS70,BAT54 and similar , inorder to get lower drop i have found that using power (1A) schottky is better because they have much lower voltage drop at 1-25mA .

  • Approach 3: OPAMP, Resistor and diode

this approach i have found is not very common , and work fairly well , similar to approach 2 but more complicated.

Circuit

  • Approach 4: Unity Gain opamp with internal Clamp

Texas instruments have a product for this role exclusively. OP698

BUT: this lowest single supply is 5v not 3.3v , and the maximum clamping voltage is lower than the rail . and it doesnot tell how much is the maximum input voltage. and it takes PCB space , 4 resistors and 1 SO-08 IC per input.

Question :

At this point of search i got a bit frustrated and i think now that Approach 2 is the best in terms of robustness and space, please help and state any other approach i am missing ??
I am also interested in exotic solutions similar to automotive Input/ Output ICs that have multiple inputs and protection built in to interface the processors to harsh environment. similar to this MAX6816 used for digital signals.

I have 8 analog input coming from various 5v and 3.3v sensors that have to be interfaced to a 3.3v micro-controller. The main system voltage is 24v-48v , i need to protect the ADC inputs against over-voltage from misuse , not ESD events. So if by mistake the 48v is connected instead of the sensor.

after looking into the following threads :

How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?

ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy

i tried the following :

  • Approach 1: Resistor and Zener

This approach is fine on digital pins but confirmed what people said in the posts about voltage drop and ADC error. I heard that using a shunt regulator like the TL431 instead could help but haven't tried it!?

  • Approach 2: Series Resistor and External clipping diodes

The approach works fine it have tries BAS70,BAT54 and similar , inorder to get lower drop i have found that using power (1A) schottky is better because they have much lower voltage drop at 1-25mA .

  • Approach 3: OPAMP, Resistor and diode

this approach i have found is not very common , and work fairly well , similar to approach 2 but more complicated.

Circuit

  • Approach 4: Unity Gain opamp with internal Clamp

Texas instruments have a product for this role exclusively. OP698

BUT: this lowest single supply is 5v not 3.3v , and the maximum clamping voltage is lower than the rail . and it doesnot tell how much is the maximum input voltage. and it takes PCB space , 4 resistors and 1 SO-08 IC per input.

Question :

At this point of search i got a bit frustrated and i think now that Approach 2 is the best in terms of robustness and space, please help and state any other approach i am missing ??
I am also interested in exotic solutions similar to automotive Input/ Output ICs that have multiple inputs and protection built in to interface the processors to harsh environment. similar to this MAX6816 used for digital signals.

I have 8 analog input coming from various 5v and 3.3v sensors that have to be interfaced to a 3.3v micro-controller. The main system voltage is 24v-48v , i need to protect the ADC inputs against over-voltage from misuse , not ESD events. So if by mistake the 48v is connected instead of the sensor.

after looking into the following threads :

How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?

ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy

i tried the following :

  • Approach 1: Resistor and Zener

This approach is fine on digital pins but confirmed what people said in the posts about voltage drop and ADC error. I heard that using a shunt regulator like the TL431 instead could help but haven't tried it!?

  • Approach 2: Series Resistor and External clipping diodes

The approach works fine it have tries BAS70,BAT54 and similar , inorder to get lower drop i have found that using power (1A) schottky is better because they have much lower voltage drop at 1-25mA .

  • Approach 3: OPAMP, Resistor and diode

this approach i have found is not very common , and work fairly well , similar to approach 2 but more complicated.

Circuit

  • Approach 4: Unity Gain opamp with internal Clamp

Texas instruments have a product for this role exclusively. OP698

BUT: this lowest single supply is 5v not 3.3v , and the maximum clamping voltage is lower than the rail . and it doesnot tell how much is the maximum input voltage. and it takes PCB space , 4 resistors and 1 SO-08 IC per input.

Question :

At this point of search i got a bit frustrated and i think now that Approach 2 is the best in terms of robustness and space, please help and state any other approach i am missing ??
I am also interested in exotic solutions similar to automotive Input/ Output ICs that have multiple inputs and protection built in to interface the processors to harsh environment. similar to this MAX6816 used for digital signals.

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I have 8 analog input coming from various 5v and 3.3v sensors that have to be interfaced to a 3.3v micro-controller. The main system voltage is 24v-48v , i need to protect the ADC inputs against over-voltage from misuse , not ESD events. So if by mistake the 48v is connected instead of the sensor.

after looking into the following threads :

[How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?][1]How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?

[ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy][2]ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy

i tried the following :

  • Approach 1: Resistor and Zener

This approach is fine on digital pins but confirmed what people said in the posts about voltage drop and ADC error. I heard that using a shunt regulator like the TL431 instead could help but haven't tried it!?

  • Approach 2: Series Resistor and External clipping diodes

The approach works fine it have tries BAS70,BAT54 and similar , inorder to get lower drop i have found that using power (1A) schottky is better because they have much lower voltage drop at 1-25mA .

  • Approach 3: OPAMP, Resistor and diode

this approach i have found is not very common , and work fairly well , similar to approach 2 but more complicated.

[![Circuit][3]][3]Circuit

  • Approach 4: Unity Gain opamp with internal Clamp

Texas instruments have a product for this role exclusively. [OP698][4]OP698

BUT: this lowest single supply is 5v not 3.3v , and the maximum clamping voltage is lower than the rail . and it doesnot tell how much is the maximum input voltage. and it takes PCB space , 4 resistors and 1 SO-08 IC per input.

Question :

At this point of search i got a bit frustrated and i think now that Approach 2 is the best in terms of robustness and space, please help and state any other approach i am missing ??
I am also interested in exotic solutions similar to automotive Input/ Output ICs that have multiple inputs and protection built in to interface the processors to harsh environment. [1]: How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input? [2]: ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy? [3]: https://i.sstatic.net/u9XgO.png [4]: similar to this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiovYq4yO3NAhUE5xoKHe55CucQFgghMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ti.com%2Fproduct%2FOPA698&usg=AFQjCNFd7tRpneAj55aDBDDILVX1TmB9NgMAX6816 used for digital signals.

I have 8 analog input coming from various 5v and 3.3v sensors that have to be interfaced to a 3.3v micro-controller. The main system voltage is 24v-48v , i need to protect the ADC inputs against over-voltage from misuse , not ESD events. So if by mistake the 48v is connected instead of the sensor.

after looking into the following threads :

[How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?][1]

[ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy][2]

i tried the following :

  • Approach 1: Resistor and Zener

This approach is fine on digital pins but confirmed what people said in the posts about voltage drop and ADC error. I heard that using a shunt regulator like the TL431 instead could help but haven't tried it!?

  • Approach 2: Series Resistor and External clipping diodes

The approach works fine it have tries BAS70,BAT54 and similar , inorder to get lower drop i have found that using power (1A) schottky is better because they have much lower voltage drop at 1-25mA .

  • Approach 3: OPAMP, Resistor and diode

this approach i have found is not very common , and work fairly well , similar to approach 2 but more complicated.

[![Circuit][3]][3]

  • Approach 4: Unity Gain opamp with internal Clamp

Texas instruments have a product for this role exclusively. [OP698][4]

BUT: this lowest single supply is 5v not 3.3v , and the maximum clamping voltage is lower than the rail . and it doesnot tell how much is the maximum input voltage. and it takes PCB space , 4 resistors and 1 SO-08 IC per input.

Question :

At this point of search i got a bit frustrated and i think now that Approach 2 is the best in terms of robustness and space, please help and state any other approach i am missing ??
I am also interested in exotic solutions similar to automotive Input/ Output ICs that have multiple inputs and protection built in to interface the processors to harsh environment. [1]: How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input? [2]: ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy? [3]: https://i.sstatic.net/u9XgO.png [4]: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiovYq4yO3NAhUE5xoKHe55CucQFgghMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ti.com%2Fproduct%2FOPA698&usg=AFQjCNFd7tRpneAj55aDBDDILVX1TmB9Ng

I have 8 analog input coming from various 5v and 3.3v sensors that have to be interfaced to a 3.3v micro-controller. The main system voltage is 24v-48v , i need to protect the ADC inputs against over-voltage from misuse , not ESD events. So if by mistake the 48v is connected instead of the sensor.

after looking into the following threads :

How would I design a protection clipper circuit for ADC input?

ADC over-voltage input protection while keeping accuracy

i tried the following :

  • Approach 1: Resistor and Zener

This approach is fine on digital pins but confirmed what people said in the posts about voltage drop and ADC error. I heard that using a shunt regulator like the TL431 instead could help but haven't tried it!?

  • Approach 2: Series Resistor and External clipping diodes

The approach works fine it have tries BAS70,BAT54 and similar , inorder to get lower drop i have found that using power (1A) schottky is better because they have much lower voltage drop at 1-25mA .

  • Approach 3: OPAMP, Resistor and diode

this approach i have found is not very common , and work fairly well , similar to approach 2 but more complicated.

Circuit

  • Approach 4: Unity Gain opamp with internal Clamp

Texas instruments have a product for this role exclusively. OP698

BUT: this lowest single supply is 5v not 3.3v , and the maximum clamping voltage is lower than the rail . and it doesnot tell how much is the maximum input voltage. and it takes PCB space , 4 resistors and 1 SO-08 IC per input.

Question :

At this point of search i got a bit frustrated and i think now that Approach 2 is the best in terms of robustness and space, please help and state any other approach i am missing ??
I am also interested in exotic solutions similar to automotive Input/ Output ICs that have multiple inputs and protection built in to interface the processors to harsh environment. similar to this MAX6816 used for digital signals.

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