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I am working for a while now on a small project of building an external mic for the iPhone to be hooked in parallel to headphones (via the 3.5mm5 mm jack) - basically. Basically, I want to replace the iPhoneiPhone's original headset microphone with another microphone  , but still use the headphones to listen.

link toBelow is an image of the prototype structure (based on 2 existing products  , but it is actually not workingworking; probably due to impedance issue) -

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-qPsJbBUqTeTDRHN28tTTFmS1k: enter image description here

someSome clarifications on the image:

item #5 - split point between microphone jack and headphones jack.

item #4 - iPhone plug 3.5mm

item #3 - a microphone which for now is NOT working since the iPhone seems NOT to identify it (probably impedance issues - it's impedance about is about 650 Ohm)

item #2 - simple headphones jack (any headphones with 3.5mm plug can hook there)

item #1 - microphone jack hooked to the external microphone I have for now.

  • item #5 - split point between microphone jack and headphones jack.
  • item #4 - iPhone plug 3.5 mm
  • item #3 - a microphone which for now is NOT working since the iPhone seems NOT to identify it (probably impedance issues - it's impedance about is about 650 Ohm)
  • item #2 - simple headphones jack (any headphones with 3.5 mm plug can hook there)
  • item #1 - microphone jack hooked to the external microphone I have for now.

I would like to focus my question on the electrical aspects of my project for now:

known. Known data I gathered so far (please feel free to correct any mistake you identify) -:

  1. iPhone supply's 1.5v on the TRRS 3.5mm jack.

    iPhone supply's 1.5 V on the TRRS 3.5 mm jack.
  2. the TRRS plug of iPhone is built of from 4 pins: Left/Right/Ground/Mic

    the TRRS plug of iPhone is built of from 4 pins: Left/Right/Ground/Mic
  1. What's the power consumption per EACH part of the iPhone headset? Each part means that there are 2 components - headphones & microphone microphone and I need the separated power consumption (especially the the microphone!!)

  2. what'sWhat's the current the iPhone drive on the headset microphone and what's the current driven on the headphones?

  3. Read some other answers on the impedance topic, that the iPhone identifies external microphone (on the headset for example) only if the impedance is ±1650-Ohm Ohm, but than, I read another answer which claims the required impedance is ±5000-Ohm. Ohm. anyAny ideas what is correct?

  4. shouldShould I plan that the microphone impedance (includes the wire) to be 1650-Ohm Ohm (or 5000-Ohm Ohm based on the answer I will get for question #3) - OR the whole prototype (microphone + wires + regular headphones I will hook to 3.5mm5 mm connector) shouldshould be together the 1650-Ohm Ohm / 5000-Ohm? Ohm?

  5. isIs this correct to say that the 1.5v5 V supplied by the iPhone 3.5mm5 mm audio output, means that the right/left/mic pins are positive contacts with 1.5v5 V vs. the ground pin (means that we have 3 parallel circuits sourced by one 1.5v5 V power source).

Thanks in advance for your answers :-) G.

I am working for a while now on a small project of building an external mic for the iPhone to be hooked in parallel to headphones (via the 3.5mm jack) - basically I want to replace the iPhone original headset microphone with another microphone  , but still use the headphones to listen.

link to prototype structure (based on 2 existing products  , but it actually not working probably due to impedance issue) -

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-qPsJbBUqTeTDRHN28tTTFmS1k

some clarifications on the image:

item #5 - split point between microphone jack and headphones jack.

item #4 - iPhone plug 3.5mm

item #3 - a microphone which for now is NOT working since the iPhone seems NOT to identify it (probably impedance issues - it's impedance about is about 650 Ohm)

item #2 - simple headphones jack (any headphones with 3.5mm plug can hook there)

item #1 - microphone jack hooked to the external microphone I have for now.

I would like to focus my question on the electrical aspects of my project for now:

known data I gathered so far (please feel free to correct any mistake you identify) -

  1. iPhone supply's 1.5v on the TRRS 3.5mm jack.

  2. the TRRS plug of iPhone is built of from 4 pins: Left/Right/Ground/Mic

  1. What's the power consumption per EACH part of the iPhone headset? Each part means that there are 2 components - headphones & microphone and I need the separated power consumption (especially the microphone!!)

  2. what's the current the iPhone drive on the headset microphone and what's the current driven on the headphones?

  3. Read some other answers on the impedance topic, that the iPhone identifies external microphone (on the headset for example) only if the impedance is ±1650-Ohm , but than, I read another answer which claims the required impedance is ±5000-Ohm.. any ideas what is correct?

  4. should I plan that the microphone impedance (includes the wire) to be 1650-Ohm (or 5000-Ohm based on the answer I will get for question #3) - OR the whole prototype (microphone + wires + regular headphones I will hook to 3.5mm connector) should be together the 1650-Ohm / 5000-Ohm??

  5. is this correct to say that the 1.5v supplied by the iPhone 3.5mm audio output, means that the right/left/mic pins are positive contacts with 1.5v vs. the ground pin (means that we have 3 parallel circuits sourced by one 1.5v power source).

Thanks in advance for your answers :-) G.

I am working for a while now on a small project of building an external mic for the iPhone to be hooked in parallel to headphones (via the 3.5 mm jack). Basically, I want to replace the iPhone's original headset microphone with another microphone, but still use the headphones to listen.

Below is an image of the prototype structure (based on 2 existing products, but it is actually not working; probably due to impedance issue): enter image description here

Some clarifications on the image:

  • item #5 - split point between microphone jack and headphones jack.
  • item #4 - iPhone plug 3.5 mm
  • item #3 - a microphone which for now is NOT working since the iPhone seems NOT to identify it (probably impedance issues - it's impedance about is about 650 Ohm)
  • item #2 - simple headphones jack (any headphones with 3.5 mm plug can hook there)
  • item #1 - microphone jack hooked to the external microphone I have for now.

I would like to focus my question on the electrical aspects of my project for now. Known data I gathered so far (please feel free to correct any mistake you identify):

  1. iPhone supply's 1.5 V on the TRRS 3.5 mm jack.
  2. the TRRS plug of iPhone is built of from 4 pins: Left/Right/Ground/Mic
  1. What's the power consumption per EACH part of the iPhone headset? Each part means that there are 2 components - headphones & microphone and I need the separated power consumption (especially the microphone!)

  2. What's the current the iPhone drive on the headset microphone and what's the current driven on the headphones?

  3. Read some other answers on the impedance topic, that the iPhone identifies external microphone (on the headset for example) only if the impedance is ±1650 Ohm, but than, I read another answer which claims the required impedance is ±5000 Ohm. Any ideas what is correct?

  4. Should I plan that the microphone impedance (includes the wire) to be 1650 Ohm (or 5000 Ohm based on the answer I will get for question #3) OR the whole prototype (microphone + wires + regular headphones I will hook to 3.5 mm connector) should be together the 1650 Ohm / 5000 Ohm?

  5. Is this correct to say that the 1.5 V supplied by the iPhone 3.5 mm audio output, means that the right/left/mic pins are positive contacts with 1.5 V vs. the ground pin (means that we have 3 parallel circuits sourced by one 1.5 V power source).

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building adapter for external mic + headphones to hook into 3.5mm jack of iPhone

I am working for a while now on a small project of building an external mic for the iPhone to be hooked in parallel to headphones (via the 3.5mm jack) - basically I want to replace the iPhone original headset microphone with another microphone , but still use the headphones to listen.

link to prototype structure (based on 2 existing products , but it actually not working probably due to impedance issue) -

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B-qPsJbBUqTeTDRHN28tTTFmS1k

some clarifications on the image:

item #5 - split point between microphone jack and headphones jack.

item #4 - iPhone plug 3.5mm

item #3 - a microphone which for now is NOT working since the iPhone seems NOT to identify it (probably impedance issues - it's impedance about is about 650 Ohm)

item #2 - simple headphones jack (any headphones with 3.5mm plug can hook there)

item #1 - microphone jack hooked to the external microphone I have for now.

I would like to focus my question on the electrical aspects of my project for now:

known data I gathered so far (please feel free to correct any mistake you identify) -

  1. iPhone supply's 1.5v on the TRRS 3.5mm jack.

  2. the TRRS plug of iPhone is built of from 4 pins: Left/Right/Ground/Mic

Questions:

  1. What's the power consumption per EACH part of the iPhone headset? Each part means that there are 2 components - headphones & microphone and I need the separated power consumption (especially the microphone!!)

  2. what's the current the iPhone drive on the headset microphone and what's the current driven on the headphones?

  3. Read some other answers on the impedance topic, that the iPhone identifies external microphone (on the headset for example) only if the impedance is ±1650-Ohm , but than, I read another answer which claims the required impedance is ±5000-Ohm.. any ideas what is correct?

  4. should I plan that the microphone impedance (includes the wire) to be 1650-Ohm (or 5000-Ohm based on the answer I will get for question #3) - OR the whole prototype (microphone + wires + regular headphones I will hook to 3.5mm connector) should be together the 1650-Ohm / 5000-Ohm??

  5. is this correct to say that the 1.5v supplied by the iPhone 3.5mm audio output, means that the right/left/mic pins are positive contacts with 1.5v vs. the ground pin (means that we have 3 parallel circuits sourced by one 1.5v power source).

Thanks in advance for your answers :-) G.