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So, I can get push-to-break switches that will break my circuit when pushed in. I assume this is how the light in my fridge works.

But how do these works? I would like to make something like this, but I have no room for a switch. My door closes very tight and I cannot drill any holes or mount any switches where it closes. I can, however, run a wire on the door and on the flange it closes against, and have them touch to complete my circuit.

So I imagine, that using the push-to-break functionality, I can break when the wires touch, and un-break when they no longer touch.

I have no clue how to achieve this though. Maybe I am even thinking about this wrong.

How can I turn my lights on, when the door is open?

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  • \$\begingroup\$ There a quite a few ways to do what you're looking for. How big of a project do you want to do? Are you inclined to use small components (like transistors), or would you prefer relays? \$\endgroup\$
    – bitsmack
    Commented Apr 3, 2014 at 16:47
  • \$\begingroup\$ @bitsmack I actually don't really have any preference. As simple as possible, definitely. \$\endgroup\$
    – Nicolai
    Commented Apr 3, 2014 at 17:40

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A simple way to do this, especially if you're switching 120V, would be to use a relay. Look for one that is either normally-closed ("NC") or has Form-C contacts. Form-C combines NO and NC contacts. Sometimes, in relays, Form-C is called "CO" or "SPDT":

FormC

You'll need some power source for the relay coil. Since this power is getting interrupted by your door contact, make sure it's not hazardous! Don't have a live 120V contact on the door jamb :)

Then, this is how you would hook it up:

Circuit

(Sorry for my cheesy drawing!)

This idea could also be used with a solid-state relay, or even a MOSFET, if those would suit your applicaion better.

Good luck!

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Does the schematic symbol give you any ideas?

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When you push it down, it breaks the connection.

There are a zillion types of switches, I doubt very much that you need to re-invent the wheel (or N.C. switch in this case).

Edit:

If I have misunderstood and your intent is simply to reverse the action of a N.O. switch to normally closed, one method is to use a relay such as the OMI-SH-112D,394 12VDC relay linked above. It draws 60mA on the coil, so any small wall wart with a 12VDC output will work to supply the coil current. The contacts are capable of switching 10A at 250VAC, so they should more than suffice. I like this style more than some slightly cheaper models because the coil pins are well separated from the (mains voltage) contact pins, which helps for safety.

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The relay coil will draw current continuously to hold the contact off. That, I think, is the simplest. A low voltage coil relay could be used which could mean that your switch would be touch-safe (assuming a wall wart supply or other isolated supply was used).

That may not be acceptable due to the current draw. The light could be driven with a solid state switch that would be turned on when the switch is opened. For example a small SSR with a pullup resistor to (say) 12V that is shunted or by the switch closing.

Having at least a few mA through a switch can help improve the reliability. If the above does not adequately answer your question for some reason, please explain why and I'll attempt to adapt the answer.

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    \$\begingroup\$ No, the OP 'has' a NC switch and wants to 'convert' (electrcally) it to NO (or vice versa). \$\endgroup\$ Commented Apr 3, 2014 at 16:22
  • \$\begingroup\$ @WoutervanOoijen, you're right now I re-read, OP already has a NC switch. But my reading is he doesn't want to convert it to something else; just wants to know how it works. \$\endgroup\$
    – The Photon
    Commented Apr 3, 2014 at 16:25
  • \$\begingroup\$ He wants to switch a light on when his NC contact breaks. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Apr 3, 2014 at 17:19
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    \$\begingroup\$ I think it's pretty clear that the OP fully understands the concept of a normally-closed (push-to-break) switch. The question is about getting the same functionality when a physical switch can't be mounted. The giant graphic was just rude. \$\endgroup\$
    – Joe Hass
    Commented Apr 3, 2014 at 17:26
  • \$\begingroup\$ @JoeHass Yes. That is exactly what I am looking for. There is no room for the switch. \$\endgroup\$
    – Nicolai
    Commented Apr 3, 2014 at 17:42

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