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I want to make my own kotatsu (a small table with an heating element underneath) and I'm considering using a "heat lamp" as the heat source (one of those aimed at reptiles, fits in a normal light bulb socket) The one I bought supposedly draws 250W at 110-120VAC. Ideally, an Arduino mini pro turns it on/off (SSR) depending on the temperature it reads. My plan would be to screw a small box containing the SSR and the arduino under the table with nothing but insulated wires coming in and out of that box.

This would be my first project dealing so closely with alternating current, so I'm keeping safety in mind... and I have many questions:

  1. Do you see any problems in using a solid-state relay? I have the FOTEK SSR-25DA, which seems to be rated for 25A. If my math is right, it shouldn't be using much more than 2-3A, right? Even considering it might draw more when turned on, it seems reasonable to my (amateur) eyes... Also, I won't be switching it rapidly (minimum time of say, 10 seconds). I don't think it's going to warm up super fast with a single bulb anyway...

  2. I have 22 AWG wires on hand and again, from what I could find on the Internet, they seem to be large enough to handle this kind of current. Still, to my non-electrician eyes, they look small for something carrying 120V and 2-3 amps. Unfounded fears? I'll be using 18AWG stranded wires instead.

  3. How could I connect the arduino and the lamp to the same power source? I'm thinking of simply using a power strip on which I'd plug a wall adapter for the arduino... Makes sense? Is there any problem about having the arduino on the same power line as it controls via SSR? I tried my best to make a schematic of what I have in mind. Do you see problems with this setup?

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

Anything else you would do differently? Potential safety issues?

Thanks! Sorry for the long question! :)

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Huh? We're just supposed to know what this "kotatsu" thing is!? \$\endgroup\$ – Olin Lathrop Nov 22 '14 at 23:10
  • \$\begingroup\$ @OlinLathrop: A) it isn't relevant to the question anyway, except for overall context, and B) it took you longer to write the comment than it would have taken to look it up! \$\endgroup\$ – Dave Tweed Nov 22 '14 at 23:14
  • \$\begingroup\$ I'm sorry, I'll add a bit of info! \$\endgroup\$ – comeauch Nov 22 '14 at 23:14
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Dave: A) I wouldn't know if it's relevant to the question since I tuned out at the unusual but undefined term. B) I shouldn't have to look up basic information required to understand the question. \$\endgroup\$ – Olin Lathrop Nov 22 '14 at 23:18
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    • The SSR is isolated - OK
    • 25A is more than enough - OK
    • 7.5mA control current - no problem for the arduino - OK
    • 0.64 mm diameter is small and for longer distances not suggested
    • If the arduino and the lamp are movable in relation to each other I would fear that the wire breaks
    • Personaly I would use flexible, braided wire, suited for mains equipment anyway
    • The SSR is isolated, I see no problem

I don't know your requirements, eventually a simple dimmer would do the job.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Good point about wires breaking... thanks for the suggestion! Yeah, a simple dimmer would probably work just fine lol... The arduino part is more for my own enjoyment/geekness than functionality ;) \$\endgroup\$ – comeauch Nov 22 '14 at 23:20
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Points 1 and 3 are fine.

Regarding point 2, you should never use anything less than AWG18 for mains wiring, no matter how low the current. This is generally required by the electrical code, and it's mainly because of the mechanical robustness issue.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Thank you, I wasn't aware AWG18 was the norm! That's what I'll use then! \$\endgroup\$ – comeauch Nov 22 '14 at 23:17
  • \$\begingroup\$ +1 It's also important because if you don't have a low-current internal fuse, an internal short (or a shorted lamp) could take long enough to blow the external high current fuse that a fire hazard condition could exist inside the box. Imagine that thin wire glowing red and the insulation burning off. \$\endgroup\$ – Spehro Pefhany Nov 22 '14 at 23:41
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The heatlamp will probably set your table on fire, and the circuitry, microcontroller and SSR is overkill.

A proper kotatsu heater contains an element, proper guards, standoffs, temperature control and sometimes a fan. you can get one on amazon.co.jp for $30, I expect you can find a 120v version readily enough. Don't forget the table skirt or all the heat escapes. And don't sleep under it - people have occasionally set themselves on fire doing that.

The traditional kotatsu is a barbecue pan in a pit below the table. Dump the coals from dinner into it and set the table on top.

@OlinLathrop: Just because you don't know what it is doesn't make it a bad question.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Well, I have to agree that it would be safer to just buy a kotatsu than making it myself, but less fun ;P I'd rather make an innefficient (but safe) one if possible. Would you care to explain why you think the heatlamp could set the table on fire? I'm not really sure how hot they get, but it's still a lamp (as opposed to say, a ceramic heater). Also, the arduino would have the job of making sure the temperature stays around a certain range. \$\endgroup\$ – comeauch Nov 23 '14 at 1:58

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