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Is there a way to convert a 7 segment display to be displayed by a laser beam?

I am a 12 year old child with a growing interest in electronics. I want to have a laser project numbers like a 7 segment display. Is there a way to hook a 7 segment display up to a laser to have the laser display the numbers onto a flat surface?

The design needs to be as compact as possible. Do you know if maybe there is an electronic converter or way that can be used to hook it up in place of the 7 segment display? Like this:

Binary for the 7 segment display -> ??Mystery part described above??? -> Laser display module.

I just started electronics a few days ago, I've got some grasp on the basic stuff, but I could really use some help here. I have a very limited amount of resources available and needed to ask people who know what they're doing.

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    \$\begingroup\$ There are small alarm clocks that project the time onto the ceiling. However these usually employ a bright LED, an LCD panel, and a lens to focus. Therefore, are you certain you need a laser? Example: amazon.com/Oregon-Scientific-Rm313pa-Exactset-Projection/dp/… \$\endgroup\$
    – JYelton
    Commented Jan 29, 2013 at 23:16
  • \$\begingroup\$ I am new to electronics, but I am thinking of designing a laser display pocket watch, I am aware that there has been a laser watch created that displays time using lasers projected, so I wanted to base it off that. Do you think a laser is necessary or should I use LEDs If I want such a display? Thank you for being so understanding @JYelton! \$\endgroup\$
    – A.I.
    Commented Jan 29, 2013 at 23:32
  • \$\begingroup\$ Something that fits in the pocket is going to be limited in size, and most importantly, in available power. A simple 5mW laser pointer (great for entertaining cats) is cheap, takes 3 button cells, and can fit on a keychain. Modifying it to display useful information will require some ingenuity. For something like that, I wouldn't try using traditional laser projection techniques. You might try the same approach as in the alarm clocks. The question is how far do you expect to project the time? A pocket laser or LED system will probably only get you a few meters, at most. \$\endgroup\$
    – JYelton
    Commented Jan 29, 2013 at 23:42
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    \$\begingroup\$ You might buy this time projector device on eBay for $2.50 and figure out how it works. It appears to use an LED and LCD even though it advertises "laser." \$\endgroup\$
    – JYelton
    Commented Jan 29, 2013 at 23:45
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    \$\begingroup\$ @PhilFrost, Please excuse me for that, I'm new to the site and I thought since my original question was not a question that the chances of It being reopened were slim, so I edited the question, realized it would take a while to reopen, then posted a new question, am i allowed do delete questions off the site? I would like to erase the old question. \$\endgroup\$
    – A.I.
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Laser displays, at least for entertainment, generally involve the following components:

  • Laser: This can be any of several types. If you want a full-color display, often two or more lasers are employed with combining optics to achieve a white light. HeNe produce red, Argon produce blue-green, etc. The size of the display intended determines the size and power of laser needed. I've seen small displays that use diode lasers, and large displays that use 10W lasers that require exciters and water cooling.

  • Scanner pair: A scanner pair is essentially a pair of servo motors with first-surface mirrors mounted to them. One acts as a bounce mirror to control the X-axis while the other controls the Y-axis. The scanner pair "aims" the beam at the desired point on the display surface.

  • Blanking: You will need a way to blank the output. Imagine a "C" shape, if you draw such an arc from top to bottom, if you do not blank the output while traveling from the stop point back to the start point, you will wind up with a backward "D". Blanking is therefore done to cause the light output to stop while positioning the scanner pair during periods of travel that do not involve drawing. This can be done with a PCAOM or, with some lasers, actually switching them off. High-power lasers cannot be switched at a high frequency, but diode lasers can.

  • Color selection: A PCAOM (Poly-chromatic Acoustic Optic Modulator) is essentially a crystal that can deform its shape based on an input radio frequency. Some can act as a blanking device, to bend light such that it is not aimed at the scanner pair. A PCAOM takes an input of white light, and allows the output of a specific color. It is essentially a variable prism.

  • Controller: A computer or microcontroller is required to coordinate all of the above. You need a way to orchestrate the motion of the scanner, the color or blanking of the beam, and generally at a high frequency. The dimensions and viewing distance of the display surface govern these requirements.

There are other ways to use lasers to project images, but this is the way I am familiar with. If you research these topics, I think you will find that you can focus your questions more specifically.

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There's no need to apologise for asking any question at all, that's what the site is here for :-)

Okay, about the laser display - it would be possible to have a laser project numbers onto a flat surface (has been done as I'm sure you know) but not by connecting a laser to an ordinary 7 segment display, no. I think what you mean is the 7-segment driver rather than the display, which is just a bunch of LEDs arranged suitably.

The way to do it would be to use something like a piezo controlled mirror arrangement with the laser (moves the mirrors slightly to reflect and move the laser point) and scan the display like an old CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) TV does, turning on the laser at the appropriate times. I think there are a couple of laser projection modules out there that do something like this to project video onto any flat surface.

The above would be a pretty difficult project for an experienced person, and I'm not aware of any dedicated chips that would do the job of driving the laser and whatever moves it (i.e. anything like your mystery part) Microcontroller knowledge and experience with various types of digital/analogue circuitry would be necessary - although the actual concept of building a picture gradually is not so difficult, the implementation is.

You might want to check out POV projects (example, example 2) which are a bit similar but much easier to make, plus there are kits and plenty of info available out here.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Do you think this is doable for an inexperienced person like me if they have the right parts? @OliGlaser \$\endgroup\$
    – A.I.
    Commented Jan 29, 2013 at 23:35
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    \$\begingroup\$ @A.I. - I don't want to discourage you, but I'm afraid not, no - as I mentioned, it's quite a job for a professional EE. As for the POV displays, I think they are doable. This is a huge and complex subject, you (unfortunately) have to start with the simple stuff and work through the theory/practice and make plenty of mistakes along the way. \$\endgroup\$
    – Oli Glaser
    Commented Jan 29, 2013 at 23:40
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    \$\begingroup\$ Also, I think using some LEDs and a lens to project as @JYeltons suggests in the comments would certainly be a far easier project, and within the scope of a beginner. \$\endgroup\$
    – Oli Glaser
    Commented Jan 29, 2013 at 23:44
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    \$\begingroup\$ Thank you for your expert advice! This site is really helpful and you folks are really friendly! \$\endgroup\$
    – A.I.
    Commented Jan 30, 2013 at 0:21
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Another way to project an image with a laser is to use a hologram. There are several commercial "virtual keyboards" based on this concept, such as this one from Brookstone. Another example is the spinning hologram in a supermarket UPC scanner that sweeps a laser beam in a complex pattern to pick up the bar code at any angle.

However, each such hologram is static; to project a different image requires a different hologram. To simulate a 7-segment display would require a separate hologram for each segment, or a series of holograms that contain all 7 segments for all of the digits or characters you want to display. These holograms could be mounted on a spinning disk, and the laser could be strobed to select the correct images.

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