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I have a small problem figuring out how to properly solve that. I could use help.

Say a system with a transfer function \$ H(s) = \frac{100}{0.4s + 1} \$ is excited with an excitation \$u(t) = 8V\$ since very long (steady state). At time \$t_1\$, \$u(t)\$ is abruptly set to 0V. What is the value of y(t) at time \$t_1\$ + 0.1?

I calculate steady state value (before time \$t_1\$) using laplace final value theorem: $$ U_0(s) = 8V \\ Y_0(s) = H(s) \cdot U_0(s) = \frac{800}{s(0.4s + 1)} \\ y_0 = \lim_{s \to 0} sY_0(s) = 800 $$

I have a first order linear system, so the form is (including initial conditions): $$ Y(s) = H(s)U(s) + C(s) = \frac{K}{\tau s + 1}U(s) + \frac{\tau y_0}{\tau s + 1} $$

Since at time \$ t_1 \$, u(t) goes from 8V to 0V abruptly, I conclude the excitation at this instant is a negative step of 8V, i.e. \$U_1(s) = -\frac{8}{s} \$. So I guess I have to calculate the response at time 0.1 of a negative step of -8V with initial condition \$y_0 = 800V\$ to obtain the correct answer.

So the general response \$Y_1(s)\$ at \$t = t_1\$ will be: $$ Y_1(s) = H(s)U_1(s) + C(s) = \frac{-800}{s(0.4s + 1)} + \frac{320}{0.4s + 1} $$

Doing the inverse Laplace of this expression I get: $$ y_1(t) = 1600 e^{- 2.5t} - 800 $$

Knowing this, finding y(t) at \$ t = t_1 + 1 \$\$ t = t_1 + 0.1 \$ would correspond to \$ y_1(0.1) \$, which gives 446.08.

Well the answer should be 623.04. Could someone explain me what I'm doing wrong? I feel I did everything correctly.

I have a small problem figuring out how to properly solve that. I could use help.

Say a system with a transfer function \$ H(s) = \frac{100}{0.4s + 1} \$ is excited with an excitation \$u(t) = 8V\$ since very long (steady state). At time \$t_1\$, \$u(t)\$ is abruptly set to 0V. What is the value of y(t) at time \$t_1\$ + 0.1?

I calculate steady state value (before time \$t_1\$) using laplace final value theorem: $$ U_0(s) = 8V \\ Y_0(s) = H(s) \cdot U_0(s) = \frac{800}{s(0.4s + 1)} \\ y_0 = \lim_{s \to 0} sY_0(s) = 800 $$

I have a first order linear system, so the form is (including initial conditions): $$ Y(s) = H(s)U(s) + C(s) = \frac{K}{\tau s + 1}U(s) + \frac{\tau y_0}{\tau s + 1} $$

Since at time \$ t_1 \$, u(t) goes from 8V to 0V abruptly, I conclude the excitation at this instant is a negative step of 8V, i.e. \$U_1(s) = -\frac{8}{s} \$. So I guess I have to calculate the response at time 0.1 of a negative step of -8V with initial condition \$y_0 = 800V\$ to obtain the correct answer.

So the general response \$Y_1(s)\$ at \$t = t_1\$ will be: $$ Y_1(s) = H(s)U_1(s) + C(s) = \frac{-800}{s(0.4s + 1)} + \frac{320}{0.4s + 1} $$

Doing the inverse Laplace of this expression I get: $$ y_1(t) = 1600 e^{- 2.5t} - 800 $$

Knowing this, finding y(t) at \$ t = t_1 + 1 \$ would correspond to \$ y_1(0.1) \$, which gives 446.08.

Well the answer should be 623.04. Could someone explain me what I'm doing wrong? I feel I did everything correctly.

I have a small problem figuring out how to properly solve that. I could use help.

Say a system with a transfer function \$ H(s) = \frac{100}{0.4s + 1} \$ is excited with an excitation \$u(t) = 8V\$ since very long (steady state). At time \$t_1\$, \$u(t)\$ is abruptly set to 0V. What is the value of y(t) at time \$t_1\$ + 0.1?

I calculate steady state value (before time \$t_1\$) using laplace final value theorem: $$ U_0(s) = 8V \\ Y_0(s) = H(s) \cdot U_0(s) = \frac{800}{s(0.4s + 1)} \\ y_0 = \lim_{s \to 0} sY_0(s) = 800 $$

I have a first order linear system, so the form is (including initial conditions): $$ Y(s) = H(s)U(s) + C(s) = \frac{K}{\tau s + 1}U(s) + \frac{\tau y_0}{\tau s + 1} $$

Since at time \$ t_1 \$, u(t) goes from 8V to 0V abruptly, I conclude the excitation at this instant is a negative step of 8V, i.e. \$U_1(s) = -\frac{8}{s} \$. So I guess I have to calculate the response at time 0.1 of a negative step of -8V with initial condition \$y_0 = 800V\$ to obtain the correct answer.

So the general response \$Y_1(s)\$ at \$t = t_1\$ will be: $$ Y_1(s) = H(s)U_1(s) + C(s) = \frac{-800}{s(0.4s + 1)} + \frac{320}{0.4s + 1} $$

Doing the inverse Laplace of this expression I get: $$ y_1(t) = 1600 e^{- 2.5t} - 800 $$

Knowing this, finding y(t) at \$ t = t_1 + 0.1 \$ would correspond to \$ y_1(0.1) \$, which gives 446.08.

Well the answer should be 623.04. Could someone explain me what I'm doing wrong? I feel I did everything correctly.

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I have a small problem figuring out how to properly solve that. I could use help.

Say a system with a transfer function \$ H(s) = \frac{100}{0.4s + 1} \$ is excited with an excitation \$u(t) = 8V\$ since very long (steady state). At time \$t_1\$, \$u(t)\$ is abruptly set to 0V. What is the value of y(t) at time \$t_1\$ + 0.1?

I calculate steady state value (before time \$t_1\$) using laplace final value theorem: $$ U_0(s) = 8V \\ Y_0(s) = H(s) \cdot U_0(s) = \frac{800}{s(0.4s + 1)} \\ y_0 = \lim_{s \to 0} sY_0(s) = 800 $$

I have a first order linear system, so the form is (including initial conditions): $$ Y(s) = H(s)U(s) + C(s) = \frac{K}{\tau s + 1}U(s) + \frac{\tau y_0}{\tau s + 1} $$

Since at time \$ t_1 \$, u(t) goes from 8V to 0V abruptly, I conclude the excitation at this instant is a negative step of 8V, i.e. \$U_1(s) = -\frac{8}{s} \$. So I guess I have to calculate the response at time 0.1 of a negative step of -8V with initial condition \$y_0 = 800V\$ to obtain the correct answer.

So the general response \$Y_1(s)\$ at \$t = t_1\$ will be: $$ Y_1(s) = H(s)U_1(s) + C(s) = \frac{-800}{s(0.4s + 1)} + \frac{320}{0.4s + 1} $$

Doing the inverse Laplace of this expression I get: $$ y_1(t) = 1600 e^{- 2.5t} - 800 $$

Knowing this, finding y(t) at \$ t = t_1 + 1 \$ would correspond to \$ y_1(0.1) \$, which gives 446.08.

Well the answer should be 623.04. Could someone explain me what I'm doing wrong? I feel I did everything correctly.