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In this section, I am struggling with the line

Abs(V) * Abs(I) = V0^2 / [blah blah]

I am not seeing how the math simplifies to that term. After looking up the absolute value of a complex number, and seeing that it is basically Pythagoras theorem on the real and imaginary axis. I just don't see the simplification for the line above power faster =

Can someone help? I assume it is correct?

Thanks

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Basically, it's \$\small|V|.|I|=\large \frac{V^2}{Z}\$ \$\endgroup\$
    – Chu
    Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 16:55
  • \$\begingroup\$ Norm(V) = Vo .... Norm(I) =Vo / sqrt(R^2 + 1/(W*C)^2) Norm(V) * Norm(I) = numerator squared / same denominator \$\endgroup\$
    – Elbehery
    Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 16:56
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Chu, how can that be true? If V is real and Z is complex, then your left hand side is real, but your right hand side is complex, so they can't be equal. \$\endgroup\$
    – The Photon
    Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 17:35
  • \$\begingroup\$ Yes, should have magnitude bars on Z. \$\endgroup\$
    – Chu
    Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 19:36

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It's not quite "absolute value" -- it's "magnitude", and is defined to be the square root of the number times it's complex conjugate -- \$ \sqrt{ X \cdot X^*}\$. This is what Matlab does when it takes the absolute value of a complex number.

To take the complex conjugate, just replace the \$j\$ with \$-j\$.

When you do the multiplication, you'll see that all of the complex terms (i.e., odd powers of j) will end up cancelled out through subtraction, and of course even powers of j are real.

If you do this, and develop a little more facility with complex numbers, along with remembering that \$j^2= -1\$ you won't have to remember any tricks or formulas or theorems. It will work all the time.

So, Let's look at the magnitude of Z

$$ Z= R- \frac{j}{\omega C}$$ $$ Z^*= R + \frac{j}{\omega C}$$ $$|Z|=\sqrt{ZZ^*}= \sqrt{R^2 - \frac{jR}{\omega C}+\frac{jR}{\omega C}+ \frac{1}{\omega^2C^2}}= \sqrt{R^2+ \frac{1}{\omega^2C^2}}$$

Now, lets look at your example

$$ I = \frac{V_o}{Z}= \frac{V_o}{R-\frac{j}{\omega C}}$$

Multiply the numerator and denominator by the complex conjugate of the denominator (i.e., multiply by 1, which is always allowed): $$\frac{V_o}{Z}= \frac{V_o}{R-\frac{j}{\omega C}}\cdot \frac{R+\frac{j}{\omega C}}{R+\frac{j}{\omega C}} =\frac{ V_o \left[ R+\frac{j}{\omega C} \right]}{R^2 + \frac{1}{\omega^2 C^2}}\text{,}$$

which is your middle equation. Note that the denominator is a real number, so you can just factor that out if you need to go on and figure out the magnitude of the numerator.

So all of this, combined with the understanding that all of this complex math will yield a vector in the complex plane, and that the magnitude is the length of the vector, and the angle is the angle of clockwise rotation (i.e., \$\tan^{-1}\left( \frac{\mathbb{I}\text{m}}{\mathbb{R}\text{e}}\right) \$) will answer all of your series of recent questions on the manipulation of these sorts.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ That's what I thought, but I did a Google search and "absolute value" is a common expression for complex magnitude, as is Norm and modulus. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 17:39
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    \$\begingroup\$ Thank you, I did not know it involved the conjugate part in the sqrt().. The line [it's "magnitude", and is defined to be the square root of the number times it's complex conjugate -- X⋅X∗] is what I needed. I'll work this out later today. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Dec 29, 2016 at 21:23
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As you discovered, you use the Pythagorean theorem to get the absolute value (aka modulus aka magnitude). Do this to the I= line and then it's just algebra to get the result:

$$ |I| = \left| {\frac {V_0} { R - (j/\omega C)}} \right| = \frac { V_0} { |R - (j/\omega C)|} = \frac {V_0} {\sqrt{ R^2 + 1/\omega^2 C^2}} $$

Multiply by |V|=V0 to get the result |V||I| = ... that you're looking for.

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Yes it's correct.

Here's what I think you're missing : capacitors and inductors are energy storage devices; the power you put into the capacitor is reclaimed later.

But the power you put into the resistor is dissipated as heat.

So the real power is the component of the VI product lying along the real (R) axis, while the "VA rating" is the hypotenuse; and the power factor is the ratio of the two - or the cosine of the phase angle between them.

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