unfortunately there is a voltage drop for the SCR , as I used an opto with a single SCR , when I checked the open anode cathode voltage without any load it was about 5V instead of 12 volts, when I add a 10Ohms load between anode and cathode the voltage on the load was about 1 volt ( instead of 12 volts) I would be grateful if you help me. thank you in advance
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2\$\begingroup\$ Sorry, but your text is a mess with lack of capital letters and punctuation and your diagram is too. There is a built-in schematic tool with a button on the editor toolbar. Please fix if you wish us to take you seriously. \$\endgroup\$– TransistorCommented May 31, 2016 at 16:22
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1\$\begingroup\$ Is pin4 of the Opto connected to the cathode of the SCR anywhere? \$\endgroup\$– user16222Commented May 31, 2016 at 16:49
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\$\begingroup\$ @JonRB yes , I have checked it not connected but still the problem has reminded \$\endgroup\$– ashCommented May 31, 2016 at 16:54
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\$\begingroup\$ Do you have a question? \$\endgroup\$– Scott SeidmanCommented May 31, 2016 at 16:56
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1\$\begingroup\$ @ashkansed an SCR requires a gate-cathode current loop to facilitate an anode-cathode conduction. If you gate circuit does not have a cathode connection it will not be controllable as expected (if at all) \$\endgroup\$– user16222Commented May 31, 2016 at 16:59
1 Answer
There are a few problems with your schematic.
- There is no load on the SCR. When it turns on it will short-circuit your 12 V battery.
- There is no ground reference between the two circuits so there is no return path for the SCR trigger current.
simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab
Figure 1. SCR trigger by opto-isolator.
- Add in the red line shown in Figure 1.
- Move the transistor to the +5 V. Now when the opto-isolator is turned on the SCR gate will be pulled high and it will turn on the SCR.
Trigger current and voltage
Figure 2. Trigger characteristics for the BT151-500R.
Figure 3. Vishay 4N32, 4N33 \$ V_{CE} \$ saturation voltage.
Since the emitter of Q1 may be as low as 4 V when turned on and the SCR gate trigger may be as high as 1.5 V that leaves us with 2.5 V to drive 15 mA into the SCR gate. \$R_{2max} = \frac {V}{I} = \frac {2.5}{1.5m} = 167~\Omega \$. Set R2 to 150 \$ \Omega \$ for reliable operation.
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\$\begingroup\$ Unless the opto is PNP, this won't necessarily work. The voltage at the emitter can only be as much as Vb - 0.7ish so you're not going to pull to 5V. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 31, 2016 at 17:05
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1\$\begingroup\$ I don't know if \$ V_b \$ is relevant in an opto but you did force me to do another 15 minutes work to get the details for worst case. I've dropped R2 from 220 \$ \Omega \$ to 150. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 31, 2016 at 17:52