1
\$\begingroup\$

I'm fixing an ultrasonic cleaner board that isn't working. There's a small transformer that drives the transducer. When I set my DMM to AC and touch both leads on its output, there's no reading. If, however, I touch only one lead, leaving the other one resting on the bench, I get 3.5V! Spooky!

What could it possibly be referencing? Could the high frequency 40KHz going through the tiny transformer induce a voltage on the other lead sort of like an antenna? It doesn't seem plausible. It's freaky stuff like this that makes me feel so small and inept in the face of electricity. It is incredibly counterintuitive.

ASIDE: Some additional spookiness. There's a small unmarked disc capacitor across the transformer output terminals wires. If I probe with both leads where the terminals are soldered together with capacitor, I get a reading of 3.5V.

\$\endgroup\$
4
  • \$\begingroup\$ did you try to to measure the voltage with DC measurement ? or using AC mode on your multimeter? \$\endgroup\$
    – nima
    Commented Jul 4, 2023 at 7:44
  • \$\begingroup\$ Even very astute practitioners get spooked - so often that they verify measurements using some other unrelated methods. So you're in good company. \$\endgroup\$
    – glen_geek
    Commented Jul 4, 2023 at 14:07
  • 1
    \$\begingroup\$ @nima, I don't get a reading for DC since I'm measuring off of a transformer tap. There's a small disc shaped capacitor across the output, but I'm not sure of its capacitance. \$\endgroup\$
    – user148298
    Commented Jul 4, 2023 at 15:31
  • \$\begingroup\$ That other lead is the reference for the measurement, In the air it is unknown. Readings obtained this way are normally useless. \$\endgroup\$
    – Gil
    Commented Jul 4, 2023 at 16:50

2 Answers 2

3
\$\begingroup\$

High frequencies, capacitive coupling, and high impedance multimeters will easily end up in weird readings.

There may very well be some AC signal which the multimeter can measure and show a result of some value, even if that value is not entirely true.

\$\endgroup\$
1
\$\begingroup\$

It is entirely plausible for your test leads to pick up currents from the circuit through air like antennas, especially with HF power electronics such as your cleaner. Really high power high frequency devices (for example a plasma cutter) have enough radiative power to do things like literally start typing garbage on a computer nearby by inducing currents inside the keyboard.

\$\endgroup\$

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.