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I'm having a hard time with the maximum power disposable from a generator derivation, it's something that I should know but I'm confused about it.

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My Professor started with this circuit and the complex power $$W_g= \frac{V_g I_g^*}{2}$$ Where \$V_g\$ and \$I_g\$ are phasors, he then said \$I_g=\frac{V_g}{Z_g+Z_a}\$, then we hypotize the MPT condition (Maximum Power Transfer) so \$Z_g=Z_a^*\$.

Now we have $$I_g=\frac{V_g}{2R_g}=\frac{V_g}{2R_a}$$

At this point we can substitute the Ig in the formula of power obtaining: $$W_g= \frac{V_g I_g^*}{2}= \frac{|V_g|^2}{8R_g}$$ Ok so the result is correct but the mathematical passage is not clear to me, because if you substitute the current there is a 2 factor that doesn't show in the math.

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The problem was stupid because i named Vg over the resistor and the Vg of the voltage generator the same, I had to use the voltage partition formula over \$ R_g\$ to get the \$V_{g_{resistor}}\$ and then multiply it by the current. in formulas: we have (MPT) $$I_g=\frac{V_g}{2R_g}=\frac{V_g}{2R_a} $$ $$V_{g_{resistor}} =\frac{R_g}{R_g+R_a}V_g = \frac{V_g}{2}$$ $$W_g= \frac{V_{g_{resistor}} I_g^*}{2}=\frac{V_{g} I_g^*}{4}=\frac{|V_g|^2}{8R_g}$$

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Why don’t you interrupt and ask in class, MPT is always when Zs=Zload \$\endgroup\$
    – D.A.S.
    Commented Mar 21, 2021 at 18:24
  • \$\begingroup\$ You can differentiate : where the derivative is zero ( in a quadratic eqn) you either have a minimum or a maximum. \$\endgroup\$
    – user16324
    Commented Mar 21, 2021 at 18:24
  • \$\begingroup\$ The MPT condition are in the hypotesis, i'm talking to derive the disposable power of a generator when in MPT \$\endgroup\$ Commented Mar 21, 2021 at 18:26
  • \$\begingroup\$ @TonyStewartSunnyskyguyEE75 Thats impedence adaption \$\endgroup\$ Commented Mar 21, 2021 at 18:31
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    \$\begingroup\$ I think you mean "maximum power available". "Disponible" or "a disposizione" = available, not disposable. \$\endgroup\$
    – John D
    Commented Mar 21, 2021 at 18:31

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MPT occurs when the voltage is 1/2 the no load voltage in a linear system. (In PV current sources it’s about 70 to 82%)

In theory (and practise) MPT is when conjugate complex impedances are matched.

\$P_{total}=(\dfrac{V_g^2}{R_g+R_L})=\dfrac{V_g^2}{2R_g}\$ since both R’s are equal.

But the generate absorbs 50% of the MPT and only “generates” 50% into the load so the Pg is 1/4Rg not 1/8Rg.

;) tell your Prof you found a discrepancy, he might hire you for a job.

This is the MPT, but far from optimal efficiency but then is used in most RF with matched impedances.

I have never seen nor used his formula. I am not responsible if you apply his formula to a nuclear reactor (lol) but they are only 50% efficient from cooling and other losses.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Wzg=Pvg/4Rg in MTP condition, in my case Pvg is A^2/2 it's a sine, so it has to be with the 8 \$\endgroup\$ Commented Mar 21, 2021 at 19:04
  • \$\begingroup\$ Ok I was assuming RMS for everything not peak since it was not spec’d. Gen’s are usually defined that way. \$\endgroup\$
    – D.A.S.
    Commented Mar 21, 2021 at 20:06

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