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For a resonant 1/2 wave dipole when used for transmitting, does the fact that the reflected waves on the antenna are in phase with the applied signal result in zero reactance at the feed point, or does zero reactance happen for some other reason ?

This question isn't answered in explanations found on Wikipedia, in the ARRL handbook and in a few other antenna books i have read.

It seems no one anywhere in the world knows the answer to this question, so i have answered it myself. If you believe my answer is wrong please tell me why.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Untrue. The impedance of a perfect halfwave dipole has significant reactive impedance of j42.5 ohms with a radiation resistance of 73 ohms. \$\endgroup\$
    – Andy aka
    Commented Aug 5, 2021 at 9:17
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    \$\begingroup\$ I think the disagreement between you and @andyaka is caused by different understandings of what is a "perfect half-wave antenna". An antenna that is precisely one half wavelength in length does indeed have reactance. But there is a length quite close to that where inductive and capacitative reactances exactly cancel. I think for you that is a "perfect" half-wave antenna, because it has the "perfect" impedance needed. \$\endgroup\$ Commented Aug 5, 2021 at 11:55
  • \$\begingroup\$ I’m voting to close this question because it is duplicated by the OP on Amateur radio beta (an SE site): - ham.stackexchange.com/questions/18526/… \$\endgroup\$
    – Andy aka
    Commented Aug 7, 2021 at 16:13

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There is reactance at the feedpoint of a half-wave dipole. Whilst 'half-wave dipole' does not fully define an antenna - you need to specify the conductor diameter and something about the feedpoint, typical impedance values at the feedpoint for thin cylindrical half-wave dipoles are around 73 + j45 ohms. The reactance is somewhat model dependent. To state that the reactance is not described anywhere is wrong - it just means that you haven't looked in the right places. Here's an early paper by King and Middleton (1945) to give you some hint as to how this is analyzed paper

From the paper, here is just one figure, note that for a half-wave dipole they are showing impedances similar to what I quoted.

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I'm not arguing that this figure is definitive, there has been a lot of work done since, and models refined. It does show that you usually have an inductive reactance at the centre of a half-wave dipole, which is why they are usually cut a bit shorter than half-wave.

Typically in some elementary antenna material you see the real part calculated, this is because it is a relatively useful thing to do, and also because it is relatively easy to do. Calculations of the real part from an assumed current distribution I(z) are relatively insensitive to errors in the assumed current. Calculation of the imaginary part is hard.

If you want to understand antennas I would suggest you study a good antenna text, there are many, find one that suits your learning style. It's good that you want to understand and visualise fields, and in many places this will stand you in good stead, but calculating the input impedance of wire antennas is not one of them.

Edit (response to comment):

Does this apply to a "theoretical ideal half wave dipole with infinite Q"

There is no such thing. Infinite Q implies no loss, but the current distribution on the dipole (including your assumed current distribution) will radiate, hence the input impedance has a positive real part, hence finite Q

What about "elements which have zero cross sectional area"?

Filamentary currents contain infinite magnetic energy in the vicinity of the conductor, hence if you try to analyse them as antennas you should get infinite reactance.

I'm pretty sure that the 45 ohms (ish) doesn't vanish as the conductor diameter shrinks. NEC (e.g. 4Nec2) is a well established code that has a good reputation for antenna analysis and it will allow you to play around with antenna lengths / diameters and compute the input impedance. Why don't you download a copy (it's free) and play around. It's a lot cheaper than cutting wire and buying a network analyser.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Hi Tesla thanks for the comments, i appreciate the time you have taken to provide your answer. I understand that what you say is true for a real dipole, but are you saying that for a theoretical ideal half wave dipole with infinite Q and elements which have zero cross sectional area, the reactance at the center feed point is not zero ? If so you can tell me why or point me in the right direction ? \$\endgroup\$
    – Andrew
    Commented Aug 6, 2021 at 5:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ Thanks Tesla, i'll do that, i don't want to leave my answer there posted as something containing facts if it isn't correct. I'll try 4NEC2 and see what that tells me. Regards, Andrew. \$\endgroup\$
    – Andrew
    Commented Aug 6, 2021 at 6:19
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Phase Relationship Between Source and Traveling Waves.

Consider a transmission line with a pure sinusoidal non-reactive source at one end and a matched resistive load at the other. There will be a traveling wave of RF energy which is moving away from the source and down the line. There is no mismatch at the load, and so there are no standing waves anywhere along the line. The impedance everywhere on the line is a real number and is equal to its the characteristic impedance .

Because the traveling wave is moving, the phase of it with respect to the source is a function of the position along the line as well as of time.

At 1/4 the wavelength of the frequency of the applied source along the line away from the source, the phase of the RF at that point with respect to the source is -90° or it lags the source by 90°. If you move to a point another 1/4 wavelength along the line the phase is now different, and is -180° with respect to the source.

Phase Relationship Between Source and Standing Wave.

If the load is removed from the above mentioned transmission line, now there is an open circuit at the end, and a standing wave appears along the transmission line. The standing wave is AC RF energy caused by the vector addition of the original or forward wave sent from the source and the wave reflected back from the open circuited end. The standing wave is now the only wave that can be seen on the line. This is just like when you mix yellow and magenta together and you get red, yellow and magenta are still there but all you can see is red. The original incident and the reflected traveling waves, while still present, are completely obscured by the addition of the each to the other. The phase of the original traveling wave sent from source can no longer be seen at all. Now the impedance everywhere along the line is determined completely and only by the standing wave and is a function of the distance from the open circuited end.

The standing wave doesn't move like a traveling wave, but is stationary and has a fixed profile along the length of the line. The standing wave is oscillating in amplitude everywhere at once along the transmission line at the frequency of the applied source, and its phase at any point with respect to the phase of the source is not a function of the position on the line, but is in fact the same everywhere.

The animation below shows the phase relationship between the moving forward and reflected traveling waves at the top, and the standing wave at the bottom which is fixed in position.

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If you think about it, it makes sense that the phase of the standing wave must be synchronized somehow to the phase of the voltage of the source, since the source is the thing that started the whole process off in the first place. It doesn't make sense for the standing wave to just have some arbitrary phase of its own.

When the source was first connected and the traveling wave was sent along the line toward the load for the first time, it took a specific amount of time for the wave to reach the load, and the time taken is directly related to how far it is from source to load.

When the wave reaches the load, then is when it starts to get reflected, and there is the relationship between the phase of the voltage of the source and the phase of the standing wave.

In actual fact, the phase of the voltage and current of the standing wave are changed when the standing wave is established at the open circuit end of the transmission line such that there is a difference of 90° between each. At every point along the standing wave the voltage lags the current by precisely 90°.

If the distance from the source to load is odd multiples of 1/4 wave length of the frequency of the source, then the standing wave current is in phase with the that of the voltage of the source, and the standing wave voltage is 90° out of phase with that of the voltage of the source.

Standing Waves on a Dipole Antenna.

For simplicity, this discussion assumes a theoretical ideal lossless dipole in free space with infinite Q. This means the dipole elements have zero cross sectional area, there is zero bandwidth, and the phase difference between voltage and current of the standing wave is precisely 90°.

It's common knowledge that the exact same situation just described for a transmission line exists in a dipole antenna. The dipole can be thought of as a spread out extension of the end of an open circuit transmission line, then the feed point becomes the source and the ends of the dipole elements behave in the same way as the open circuited end of the transmission line.

Due to complete reflection at the open circuit ends, there is a standing wave on the dipole just like there is for the transmission line. The original traveling wave sent from the source and its reflection are obscured, and the phase of these traveling waves cannot be seen or measured, and the only waveform that exists on the antenna is a full standing wave.

At the ends of the elements, the magnitude of the voltage of the standing wave is always fixed at it's maximum AC value, and the current is always zero, so the difference in phase between voltage and current everywhere on the antenna is forced to be exactly 90°.

Furthermore, the phase of the standing wave everywhere on the antenna with respect to the phase of the source at the feed points is also fixed and constant and is determined by the distance between the feed points and the ends of the elements.

Awareness of these phase relationships is crucial in order to understand exactly what causes the reactance or lack there of present in the impedance of a dipole.

A Half Wave Dipole.

The diagram below shows a snapshot in time of the voltage and current of the standing wave along the length of a half wave dipole at the exact instant when the magnitude of the current of the standing wave is at a maximum.

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For a half wave dipole, because the elements are exactly 1/4 λ in length and so the feed points are 1/4 λ away from the ends, the current magnitude maximum occurs exactly at the center of the dipole where the feed points are, and the voltage is always zero. As is the case with all dipoles of any length, the voltage of the standing wave lags the current by 90°, but because this is a half wave dipole with 1/4 λ elements, the phase of the standing wave voltage lags that of the source by 90° and the standing wave current is in phase with the source voltage.

Notice the vertical lines at both of the feed points. These represent the in-phase voltage and current of the source at the feed points. The voltage presented by the source adds vectorily to the voltage caused by the standing wave at the feed points.

This antenna has 4 reasons to be of interest to ham radio operators.

  1. The phase of the current of the standing wave at the feed points compared to the phase of the source voltage is 0°. The quotient of source voltage and standing wave current at the feed points contains no reactance.

  2. The phase of the voltage of the standing wave, which lags the phase of the current of the standing wave by 90°, compared to the phase of the source voltage, is -90°. The quotient of the voltage and current of the standing wave at the feed points contains the maximum reactance possible.

  3. The standing wave voltage at the feed points which could contribute reactance to the impedance seen at the feed points if it wasn't zero all the time, is always zero all the time, and so does not contribute any reactance to the impedance seen at the feed points

  4. The standing wave is reactive circulating energy in the antenna which is is being topped up exactly at the right moments by the source voltage, and so antenna current reaches a value which is much larger than the energy supplied by the source. Since radiation is proportional to the electromagnetic field intensity, and this field is proportional to the square of the RMS current in the conductors, the resonant antenna produces a much higher electric field intensity for a giving source current compared to when being operated at frequencies other than those which result in resonance. This is why everyone loves resonant antennas.

A Dipole Not Being Operated at Resonance.

The diagram below also shows a snapshot in time of the voltage and current along the length of the standing wave on a dipole at the exact instant when the magnitude of the current of the standing wave is at a maximum, except this time it's for a dipole which has elements which are 15° longer than 1/4 or 90° of the wave length of the applied sine wave at the feed points. This means the entire antenna is 30° longer than the half wave length of the applied sine wave.

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For this dipole, because the elements are not 1/4 λ in length and so the feed points are not 1/4 λ away from the element ends, the current magnitude maximum does not occur exactly at the center of the dipole where the feed points are, and the voltage is not always zero. As usual the voltage of the standing wave lags the current by 90°, but in this case the phase of the standing wave lags that of the source by 105° and the phase of the standing wave current lags the source voltage by 15°.

This antenna has 4 problems.

  1. The phase of the current of the standing wave at the feed points compared to the phase of the source voltage is -15°. The quotient of source voltage and standing wave current at the feed points contains reactance.

  2. The phase of the voltage of the standing wave, which lags the phase of the current of the standing wave by 90°, compared to the phase of the source voltage, is -105°. The quotient of the voltage and current of the standing wave at the feed points contains reactance.

  3. The standing wave voltage at the feed points which contributes reactance to the impedance seen at the feed points isn't always zero.

  4. The reactive circulating energy in the antenna isn't being topped up at the right moment and so antenna current isn't as high as it could be compared to when the antenna is operated at resonance. This is why some people don't like non-resonant antennas as much.

The Standing Wave Determines the Reactance in the Impedance at the Feed point.

At the feed points, whatever the voltage is of the standing wave adds vectorily to the voltage provided by the source.

For a dipole operated at resonance, the zero crossing point of the 90° out of phase voltage of the standing wave on the antenna falls exactly in the same position as the feed points, and so the magnitude of this out of phase voltage at the feed points is always zero and so contributes no reactance to the impedance seen at the feed points.

Because the current of the standing wave at all points on the antenna including at the feed points is in phase with the source, because the length of the elements are exactly 1/4 λ, it also doesn't add reactance to the impedance.

For a dipole not being operated at resonance, the out of phase standing wave voltage zero crossing point doesn't line up exactly with the feed points, and so at the feeds point there is a voltage which isn't always zero that is out of phase with the standing wave current and source voltage, and this adds reactance to the impedance. In addition, the current is also now not in phase with the voltage at the source and this too adds adds reactance to the impedance.

Because the original incident and reflected traveling waves which combined to form the standing wave are obscured by the addition of each to the other and so cannot be measured, the phase of these has no bearing on the impedance seen across the feed points, and the value of any reactance present in the impedance at the feed point is determined only by the phase of the standing wave compared to that of the source.

References

  1. The Similarity of Waves by John Shives https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovunOxlY1k
  2. Transmission Lines by Alexander Shure.
  3. Antennas by Alexander Shure.
  4. Practical Antenna Handbook by Joseph Carr Vol 4, Chapter 5 only.
  5. https://www.ittc.ku.edu/~jstiles/723/eecs 723 handouts.htm
  6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_antenna
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  • \$\begingroup\$ Darn, Andrew. I think I'm learning a few extra things from all this. THANKS! My sincere appreciation for your time, thoughts, and effort here. Asked and answered, I suppose. Let's see if there are valid criticisms. \$\endgroup\$
    – jonk
    Commented Aug 5, 2021 at 9:07
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    \$\begingroup\$ This is incorrect: Due to complete reflection at the open circuit ends... - if there were a complete reflection then the antenna would not push power into space. You appear to have missed the point that an antenna is an impedance matching network coupling with the impedance of free space thus, allowing energy to be transmitted. \$\endgroup\$
    – Andy aka
    Commented Aug 5, 2021 at 9:27
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Andrew - Look up tapered notch or vivaldi radiator, which is an antenna (element usually used in large arrays). It is an impedance transformer, matching the 50 ohm feed impedance to the 330 ohms impedance of free space. \$\endgroup\$
    – SteveSh
    Commented Aug 5, 2021 at 14:39
  • \$\begingroup\$ It's not completely wrong. The signal comes to the antenna as a radiowave which is guided by the transmission line. That radiowave partially jumps to free space and partially reflects forth and back in the antenna. There it's dissipated to losses and radiation, a part can also return to the feed cable. I'm afraid classical elecromagnetism cannot explain what a propagating radiowave actually is, the existence of certain E and H fields when there's no charges in the same place is only an assumption. [Edited by a moderator.] \$\endgroup\$
    – user136077
    Commented Aug 6, 2021 at 11:19
  • \$\begingroup\$ All - Please keep things calm & civil and remember the Code of Conduct. Polite technical disagreement is allowed. However, don't post any profanity or anything that could feel personal, even when applied to content and not the person. Several comments have already been edited or deleted because of this. Thanks for your help. \$\endgroup\$
    – SamGibson
    Commented Aug 6, 2021 at 11:21

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