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I was asked to find the form factor of this voltage wave:enter image description here

But before getting the form factor, I should know the RMS value and the average value of the waveform. Knowing that the

$$V_{\text{rms}}=\sqrt{\frac{1}{3}\left(\int_{0}^{1}(4t)^{2}\:\mathrm{d}t + \int_{1}^{2} 4^{2}\:\mathrm{d}t + \int_{2}^{3} v^{2}\:\mathrm{d}t\right)}\tag{1}$$

My only problem is I can't solve the RMS by its formula because I don't know what to substitute on integral of \$v^2\$. Please teach me how to find the equation for the parabola so that I can substitute it into \$(1)\$ I also can't understand the "piecewise" mentioned on some pdf's. I found the value $4t$ by using ratio and proportion..

Any help will be truly appreciated. Thanks

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  • \$\begingroup\$ What's the formula for the parabola dude? \$\endgroup\$
    – Andy aka
    Commented May 6, 2014 at 15:05
  • \$\begingroup\$ according to google, the formula for the parabola that fits on the problem is x^2 = 4*a*y and f = (0,a) \$\endgroup\$
    – nicy12
    Commented May 6, 2014 at 15:09
  • \$\begingroup\$ Hint: The integral of a 2nd order polynomial is a 3rd order polynomial. Polynomials are easy to integrate, since you can integrate each term separately and sum the results. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 6, 2014 at 15:18
  • \$\begingroup\$ i can't integrate the parabola part since i can't find its equation. can you tell me how to find it? \$\endgroup\$
    – nicy12
    Commented May 6, 2014 at 16:19
  • \$\begingroup\$ nicy12 - I'm sorry to tell you this, but you are out of your depth. If you don't know how to integrate a function, you almost certainly don't know how to differentiate one, either. Without being able to do this, you will find yourself increasingly baffled by what your courses are asking for. I suggest you drop the EE course, and take a calculus course instead. THEN take the EE course. \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 6, 2014 at 16:51

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Note that in your case:

$$\int_{0}^{1}v(t-2)^{2}\:\mathrm{d}t=\int_{2}^{3}v(t)^{2}\:\mathrm{d}t$$

Using this, and the generic formula for a parabola with it's vertex at the origin, we have that: \$v(t-2)=4t^{2}\$, we therefore have that:

$$\int_{2}^{3}(v(t))^{2}\:\mathrm{d}t=\int_{0}^{1}(4t^{2})^{2}\:\mathrm{d}t=\int_{0}^{1}16t^{4}\:\mathrm{d}t=\left[\frac{16t^{5}}{5}\right]_{0}^{1}=\frac{16}{5}$$

I hope this helps you!


EDIT: In order to clarify how I arrived at the equation \$v(t-2)=4t^{2}\$, we can examine the general equation of a parabola, given by: $$y(x)=a(x-b)^{2}+c$$

Where \$a\$ is a parameter which modifies the gradient of the parabola and \$b\$ and \$c\$ determine the vertex (bottom-/top-most point) of the parabola (at \$(x,y)=(b,-c)\$), in this case we have that the vertex of \$v(t-2)\$ is at the point \$(0,0)\$ (imagine shifting the graph 2 units to the left) and therefore \$b=-c=0\$ and therefore we have the equation: $$v(t-2)=a(t-2)^{2}$$

Using the fact that when \$t-2=1\$, \$v(t-2)=4\$, we get \$a=4\$.

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  • \$\begingroup\$ How did you conclude the first line in your algebra? Is it something related to the maths behind a parabola? \$\endgroup\$
    – Andy aka
    Commented May 6, 2014 at 16:45
  • \$\begingroup\$ i think you're asking in v(t-2)=4t^2 ? v(t-2)=4t^2 bothers me now. \$\endgroup\$
    – nicy12
    Commented May 6, 2014 at 16:46
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Andyaka, you can get it through simple intuition by viewing the Riemannian integral \$\int_{a}^{b}f(x)\:\mathrm{d}x\$ as the area under the curve \$f(x)\$ in the interval \$[a,b]\$, does that help? \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 6, 2014 at 16:48
  • \$\begingroup\$ @nicy12 What do you mean, you don't know how I arrived at: \$v(t-2)=4t^2\$? \$\endgroup\$ Commented May 6, 2014 at 16:49
  • \$\begingroup\$ sad to say but yes sir shaktal. \$\endgroup\$
    – nicy12
    Commented May 6, 2014 at 16:51

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