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I have a microcontroller driving a solid-state relay to switch an LED lightbulb (the household type).

EDIT: added circuit (maybe it addresses Andy aka's comment?). PB0 is the bit 0 of output port B of the microcontroller (AVR tiny25)

schematic

simulate this circuit – Schematic created using CircuitLab

ADDITIONAL EDIT ABOUT ADDED FIGURE ABOVE:

Related to winny's comment/solution --- since I can't (in general) connect a resistor in parallel to a lightbulb (it would require hacking into the lamp or fixture), I could take advantage of the fact that GND (household GND) and N (neutral) are connected, and place those two resistors (only one is necessary, but placing two makes the contacts of the SSR output interchangeable). Does this work?

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I thought zero-crossing was a good idea, so I'm using the IXYS CPC1965Y. It's not working: when I switch it on, the lightbulb gives out a flash (like a photographic camera flash) every 3 or 3.5 seconds.

It's not the circuit --- I replace the LED lightbulb with an incandescent lightbulb and it works perfectly ok. Also, a curious detail is that I first had gotten the CPC1976Y (2A, instead of 1A) and tried with that one, and it was working ok. (then, digikey ran out of stock, so I got the 1965Y assuming that functionality would be identical)

The manual (both the 1965Y and the 1976Y) talks about low power factor; specifically, it lists 0.25 as the PF required for guaranteed turn-on, and a footnote says: "snubber circuits may be required at low power factors". However, it does not say anything about what the snubber circuit should look like.

I think the notion of PF would not apply to an LED lightbulb in the strict sense, since it is non-linear; but I guess the issue for the SSR is the same.

Will I really need to switch to a non-ZC SSR? (they're more expensive, surprisingly enough :-( )

Any suggestions on how to make it work with the ZC SSR?

Thanks!

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  • \$\begingroup\$ Is your circuit the industry standard one? \$\endgroup\$ – Andy aka Oct 27 '16 at 14:17
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    \$\begingroup\$ Several similarities to electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/263966/…, but your bulb seems to have UVLO protection, hence the difference in frequency. Does it help at add load in paralell to satisfy the minimum holding current? \$\endgroup\$ – winny Oct 27 '16 at 14:35
  • \$\begingroup\$ @Andyaka: not sure whether you're asking about my circuit or the circuit inside the LED lightbulb --- I edited my post to add the schematic of what I did. \$\endgroup\$ – Cal-linux Oct 27 '16 at 15:24
  • \$\begingroup\$ Ah that's better. \$\endgroup\$ – Andy aka Oct 27 '16 at 16:27
  • \$\begingroup\$ @winny: yes, it does work. Though the datasheet specifies a minimum load current of 5mA, with as much as a 200k resistor in parallel with the lightbulb, it works --- the microcontroller turns on and off the lightbulb. \$\endgroup\$ – Cal-linux Oct 27 '16 at 16:30
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Snubbers are generally capacitors in series with a resistor ( which absorbes the transient energy) You could try a 240V ac X rated 0.47uF capacitor in series witha 47 ohm 1/2 watt resistor across the LED just to see if that makes a difference. Remeber PF is is defined not only a function of displacement between voltage and current ( as per an inductive or capacitive loads ) but also of harmonic origin, as per non linear devices. For the LED the distortion may occur around the zero crossing point of the AC waveform due to the LEDs V/I characteristic below a few volts - thinking maybe that is the reason for that type of zero crossing SSR not triggering reliably ? The capacitor / resistor combination will provide an element of inphase current / voltage which will help trigger the SSR reliably.

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